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Hand thrown spear better than the Atlatl?
Grasshopper Mouse:
Yes, that is Tom.
Perhaps I need a clarification:
Is the atlatl a "failure" due to inaccuracy or because you can throw a spear a longer distance?
If it's inaccuracy then you're wrong. People like Tom Mills and Chris Henry easily show that it's capable of perfectly respectable accuracy within its intended performance envelope.
If because you can throw a spear further... so what? Throwing a spear further does not mean you have the accuracy to collect dinner.
The video you link to above is essentially as meaningless as if you gave a bunch of ordinary people access to race cars and expected them to turn in performances in line with professional race car drivers.
Guy
John32r:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper Mouse on December 05, 2015, 01:33:56 am ---
The video you link to above is essentially as meaningless as if you gave a bunch of ordinary people access to race cars and expected them to turn in performances in line with professional race car drivers.
Guy
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--- Quote ---This bit of video features some legends of the atlatl world at the European Spearthrowing Championship at Tauteval, France in August, 1998. Pictured are Lloyd Pine (originator of the ISAC), Bill Tate (founding member WAA), Suzie Brown (the Queen of Colorado), Jim Ray (the Old Mammoth Hunter), and the first World Champion (1996), Pascal Chauvaux. Also present is Cyrille Huc, who placed 4th in the World ISAC in 2009.
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bubby:
I know for a fact that at 15 yds my atlatl dart with just a sharpened point gets 6" of penetration on a three d target i think your way off base saying at 20-30 yds thay wont have enough energy to kill something, and i don't think you can throw a spear farther than an atlatl can travel, accuracy ; at 20 yds my son consistantly puts it in the vitals, just do a search for atlatl hunting kills i think you will be surprised
bubby:
You know some people think they are the sharpest knife in the drawer and cherry pic info to make them look that way, if we just don't respond to this type of post and they don't get the attention they want they eventually will fade away
Zuma:
--- Quote from: M-P on December 05, 2015, 12:01:46 am ---
As for banner stones, their method of use is conjectoral, based on positioning in archeologic finds. Modern experiments using them on atlatls has failed to find a proven advantage. That doesn't mean they weren't used as atlatl weights, just means they have no proven advantage. They do make your atlatl look cool though which is reason enough for me. Ron
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Thanks Ron
Zuma
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