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I need some advise and pics
WillS:
Don't use that model for clothing guides ;D It's a million miles off! For Henry's 16th century elite archers you want absolute top of the range fashion. Glennan Carnie and his wife are about as good as you'll get for that period in terms of spot on accurate clothing.
This photo of Glen is what you're after for clothing (this isnt even high fashion, and Henry's elite may well be far more "fancy" but its a good starting point.
If you Google Glennan Carnie you'll find lots of photos of him at full draw with bows around 150lb so combine the two and you should be on your way. Can't go wrong with Joe and Mark either, and if you can find some pics of Simon Stanley, or anybody else who can properly shoot heavy bows you'll have a good range of styles to pick from.
Lucasade:
I would have thought the Mary Rose museum would have used clothing off the ship as a basis for dressing the models? And massive trousers like in your picture would be no use at all for working men on a ship as they would be constantly getting in the way - maybe for the officers though as they do look very dapper. I've worked on traditional sailing ships and I'd sooner go without trousers than be around blocks, ropes and other moving rigging with that much loose fabric.
Don't forget the working men being 'elite' would not equate to them being anything more than working men who were very good at their job, so almost certainly not rich enough for haute couture.
Pat B:
Maybe using "Mary Rose era" isn't right. "War Bow era" might be a better term. Say the average war bow shooter from Agincourt or other battles would be a better choice. I'm not all that familiar with the time lines so forgive my ignorance.
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I'll research the info given and look forward to other info to come.
WillS:
Mary Rose era and Agincourt era clothing are very, very different. Easier to find Agincourt era clothing photos online however. If you look at some of the kit worn by the guys who did the recent 600 year anniversary you'll have a good idea. Can't get much better than Nick Birmingham for that, if you can find some images. He's got it spot on.
Lucasade - they're not working men, they're soldiers. Very different thing! Paid soldiers hired for the kings flagship aren't "working men". Plus, despite being at battle when it sank, the MR was on route to the Isle Of Wight to drop off soldiers as well. It wasn't sailors that were using the bows. That's my understanding anyway. May be wrong!
Lucasade:
Soldiers or not they would still have been on a working man's daily wage, albeit a good one. Enough for good quality clothes but not enough to keep up with fashion I would say. I may well be wrong but the only soldiers I've ever seen or seen pictures of swanning around in fancy clothes tend to be ceremonial guards or minions of an egotist; all the rest I've seen wear highly practical clothes that won't get in the way.
Prince Harry was the flagship when the Mary Rose sank, though Mary Rose had been a flagship previously in her career. And wouldn't soldiers be hired for the army rather than an individual ship?
There's some good photos of Nick Birmingham on the Warbow Wales site's report of the 2015 Courtfield Cup.
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