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Offline Badger

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #480 on: April 18, 2016, 07:06:17 pm »
Matt, I bet with some little 3 mm carbon arrows, fast flite string and floppy disk fletching you might get 300 yards or more.

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #481 on: April 18, 2016, 07:28:54 pm »
Floppy disk fletching?  As in a 3-1/2 inch floppy disk?  Interesting...
I plan on 1/4" cedar with goose feather fletching to keep the "natural" thing going.
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #482 on: April 18, 2016, 08:42:53 pm »
  Matt, I would use the densest wood you can find, the arrow will have such low mass as it is it will have problems fighting the fletches. I had some water buffalo horn sliced up into .010 thicknesses for fletches but I don't have any left. something very stiff and thin and maybe 1/8 high. paper might work. Tonkin cane is almost double the density of wood if you could find some short pieces of that.

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #483 on: April 18, 2016, 09:06:54 pm »
How do you attach something like floppy disk material? It is kinda- floppy, and has no flange or whatsit.

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #484 on: April 18, 2016, 09:21:49 pm »
Looks like you are there Matt !
this has been a fun time and we are not even there yet!
se ya next week for a trial run
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Offline MWirwicki

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #485 on: April 19, 2016, 08:13:23 am »
  Matt, I would use the densest wood you can find, the arrow will have such low mass as it is it will have problems fighting the fletches. I had some water buffalo horn sliced up into .010 thicknesses for fletches but I don't have any left. something very stiff and thin and maybe 1/8 high. paper might work. Tonkin cane is almost double the density of wood if you could find some short pieces of that.

Steve:  I've got water buffalo horn milled down to about that.  It's super thin.  I milled it down when having to come up with reinforcements for my broken tip.  I'm also going to try some thin River cane that PatB is bringing.  I did shoot my little boy's 12" arrows through it which are 1/4" cedar but the fletching is taller.  They flew okay at about 10 yards in my basement.  I'll have to try your suggestion for flight shooting it.  What do you think about bamboo shish-kabob skewers?  I'm thinking they might be too small in diameter.
Matt Wirwicki
Owosso, MI

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #486 on: April 19, 2016, 09:41:32 am »
Matt, you can get 1/4" solid bamboo rods in the cake decorating isle at walmart.  There is some slightly smaller diameter bamboo grilling sticks in the camping section.
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #487 on: April 19, 2016, 09:44:44 am »
I picked up some of those grilling sticks in the camping aisle at Wal-Mart this last weekend.  They measure .200".  I may have to go back and pick up the .250" cake decorating ones, thanks for the info Clint.

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #488 on: April 19, 2016, 09:48:58 am »
  We like to use about 1/4" for a 24" arrow, if you could get down closer to 1/8" it might be better. The very light weight of the arrows is what fights you at this point though. Not enough mas to carry them through the air. Tonkin cane is the only natural material I know of that has the real density that is needed.

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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #489 on: April 19, 2016, 01:11:56 pm »
Matt, the hill cane I'm bringing for you guys are between 1/16" diameter up to about 3/8" diameter. This hill cane is pretty dense stuff.
 Steve, I'll be happy to send you some hill cane to try if you'd like.
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #490 on: April 19, 2016, 03:00:04 pm »
That'll be great, Pat.  Looking forward to seeing you.
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #491 on: April 22, 2016, 04:30:54 pm »
I was wondering how high a brace you guys are using, so far I've been at 2" cause these bows are a bear to brace
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #492 on: April 22, 2016, 04:52:49 pm »
Bubby,
I scaled down a 64.5" ntn bow with a 6.5" brace height and I'm using 2.25" .  It shoots better than I can shoot it, if you know what I mean.
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #493 on: April 22, 2016, 05:04:35 pm »
Thanks dbar, i figured someone would use a more logical approach than my typical wing it style
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Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
« Reply #494 on: April 22, 2016, 05:22:45 pm »
Matt, you can get 1/4" solid bamboo rods in the cake decorating isle at walmart.

Ya bake too, huh?
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