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Offline BowEd

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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2016, 10:48:35 am »
Just shoot em to see how they fly closes the door on that.
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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2016, 11:15:15 am »
Single bevels rotate as they pass through game,  so if you mismatch your fletches and single bevels your arrows will have to stop rotating when they hit the animal and starts rotating the opposite direction as it passes through.  That is the reason I have heard to match your fletches and bevels.

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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2016, 11:41:54 am »
Also what I heard bubbles, made sense to me

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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2016, 11:47:39 am »
Ever try twisting an arrow through a deer's body? I promise you my bow wont be doing any of that. It will rotate in flight, impact and stop rotating immediately, then push on straight through.
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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2016, 12:51:08 pm »
Sorry,  just repeating information I've heard.  Here is my source:

From "why single bevel broadheads"  by Ed ashby

During the last 25 years I've intensely studied broadhead
design, and how it affects a hunting arrow's terminal
performance in tissues; field testing hundreds of different
heads in real tissues, dissecting wound channels and looking at
results. It's taken me that long to fully comprehend the 'how
and why' of single-bevel broadhead performance, and the numerous
and remarkable advantages it offers the bowhunter. The most
obvious functional difference between single and double-beveled
broadheads is the rotation single-bevels induce as the broadhead
penetrates.
 Everyone knows that arrows rotate in flight, because of the
effect of the fletching. Few, however, give arrow rotation any
thought beyond that. And why should they? When using a double-
beveled broadhead all arrow rotation stops at impact and, unless
the broadhead is deviated in some way by impact with a hard
tissue, such as bone, the arrow penetrates straight through an
animal without any rotation. Examination of entrance and exit
wounds, and the intervening wound channel, confirms this.
During flight the typical arrow makes one complete
revolution (360 degrees) in about 60 inches of travel. Several
times I've measured the rotational rate exhibited for one
specific single-bevel broadhead design; the Modified Grizzly.
It's the broadhead I use for most of my hunting. Its single-
bevel edges induce one complete revolution in just under 16" of
soft-tissue travel (through 'pure meat').  / end quote

As I pull my single bevel heads out of foam targets I can feel them rotate as I pull them out. 
With slower self bows it probably doesn't make a huge difference during flight to mismatch your bevels and fletchings, I agree with that.  But that doesn't change the fact that a single bevel wants to rotate a certain way when it enters an animal. 

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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2016, 01:09:29 pm »
I could see a slight possibility of this being a real consideration and certainly didn't put any research into having never shoot a metal broad head only stone, but I think it's probably way more important that arrow inters clean well tuned to the bow. No sideways flight. At least at speeds my bows shoot.
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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2016, 01:10:25 pm »
Hopefully we aren't muddying up this thread too bad.

Sooooooooooooooooooooo many variables not included in that excerpt. I should have kept my mouth shut and just kept my thoughts to myself. My apologies.
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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2016, 01:15:59 pm »
I think it would be pretty cool to see someone test this in a block of clear ballistic gelatin, would be pretty obvious pretty fast on slow mo playback if the rotation mattered. Not debating the topic anymore, just saying it would be really cool to watch that experiment, lol.

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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2016, 02:04:04 pm »
Yea I believe your right bubbles,or Ashby is so to speak.Sounds like he's watched the arrow fly on slow mo.The grizzly head is hard to beat.Having the reinforced center spine on them helps to keep the point from curling too when hitting bone with it's chisel point.I gave a stoss broadhead to an Amish once to use.He shot a compound of course.He showed me the broadhead later with a curled point from hitting bone.A stoss broadhead's spine is reinforced too but has a fine sharp point on it.I've seen ribs busted up through deer from good stone points though too.
Hunting hogs with grizzlies makes sense.
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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2016, 02:13:45 pm »
Sorry for the hijack,  just regurgitating what I thought was an accepted view on the single bevel idea.  Now,  I wanna see some more hunting rigs!   I'll post mine when I get back from my travels.

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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2016, 02:50:16 pm »
The hijack was probably my fault.   Carry on

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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2016, 06:55:19 pm »
Here's this years kit. Rawhide backed osage 62"ntn 50#@26". POC shafts with Ace broadheads. 1 poplar selfnock shaft with turkey feathers and a Bear greenie. A GFA style quiver i just made, that sweet knife Pappy made( i was lucky enuff to win at Elm Hall). Prolly gonna throw in a couple obsidian pointed arras as well. This is just the business end of my gear.
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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2016, 10:45:07 pm »
This is what I carried while hunting in Colorado back in 2010. The PA Magazine in the pic has the article I wrote about making the bow I took in 2006 in the same area. I usually hunt light but have most of the bases covered.

 
This yer I'll be carrying the bow I got from Simon in the bow trade. I have arrows that shoot well from it but I may make a set just for it.
 
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Re: Your hunting set up! Pics and descriptions
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2016, 10:51:59 pm »
I think I got that PA mag somewhere here Pat.Nice looking set up.
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