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Offline loon

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long draw length crazy ratio
« on: August 24, 2016, 10:17:41 pm »
Not my bow

1½" wide, 2" set, 66" long 48lb at 41" hazel. Not sure how many shots he got through it... ...





My long term dream/goal is to do a 58" bow with 33" draw, sinew backed with some sort of supple wood and some reflex... (maybe mixed miwok and lakota style, perhaps 5 curve static recurve) it's still significantly less crazy than this. draw length / bow length ratio of .57 rather than .62. I want such draw length to potentially use it for Korean traditional archery. So it'd have to make 160 yards as straight as possible.. would 45#@33" be enough? Maybe 8gpp
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Offline scp

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 11:07:01 pm »
Definitely possible with bamboo and with wood like persimmon.

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2016, 03:13:35 am »
I've never heard anybody talking about this before.....but I have a hazel short bow that can be drawn until the string comes off the nocks yet never shows any string follow (or very little). I think it's about 50 inch or so long and has been drawn to 34.

Offline WillS

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2016, 04:17:49 am »
Mikke has a habit of making bows that refuse to break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmDngX92XQ

Offline WillS

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2016, 04:18:36 am »
And here's the bow in your photos being drawn on video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imBWlcJE8KE

Offline loon

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 05:05:12 am »
I've never heard anybody talking about this before.....but I have a hazel short bow that can be drawn until the string comes off the nocks yet never shows any string follow (or very little). I think it's about 50 inch or so long and has been drawn to 34.

Man, could make a Korean hazel self bow!!

Thanks WillS... I can't even. Guess Hazel is magic wood? Or Mikke is a magic bowyer..

Offline WillS

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2016, 05:38:34 am »
He's definitely magic.  When you can make willow bows at 90lb you're automatically a wizard.

Offline Tuomo

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2016, 05:49:27 am »
Hey, that first video is from my home yard! I had arranged a primitive archery competition.

Mikke is here in Finland very well known bowyer and archer.

Here is the same bird cherry bow in slow motion, the bow is flying like a bird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cypA1F15D5M

Offline loon

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2016, 06:08:25 am »
Hahahaha nice! That is awesome!!

Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2016, 06:23:34 am »
By looking at it, Id guess the last 35# of draw weight comes from the last 3" of draw. Nasty little bugger. If he had the fades moving at all he wouldn't even have as much set mid limb as he does now.
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Offline Dictionary

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2016, 07:46:18 am »
Backed with fiberglass??
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Offline WillS

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2016, 08:06:56 am »
Definitely not.  Mikke has done this with countless selfbows.

Offline sleek

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2016, 09:25:24 am »
Mike, can you make a 49 inch bow go to 28 inches of draw at around  55 pounds?

Loon, have you seen my short bows I have been working on, 45 and 49 inches long going to 26 and 28 inches of draw?
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Offline FilipT

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Re: long draw length crazy ratio
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2016, 08:16:57 am »
Interesting picture, long draw?