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RBLusthaus:
So, I found my TBB 3 and looked at the diagram on the top of page 250. This diagram attempts to explain the two different types of grain configuration we could expect to see in a split shaft. The text uses the terms reed and rift. I would use the term "edge grain" for what they call reed - and I think we agree that this is the edge of the shaft most likely to spine the highest value, and it is then therefore this edge which goes against the bow slight window. The other type of grain, I call rift or we have been referring to it as the grain run out or grain flames or points. This rift grain will point one way on one side of the shaft and the opposite way 180 degrees around. That is all this diagram purports to show. It did not, as far as I could tell, indicate which way the rift flames should point in a finished arrow. As the diagram I posted yesterday shows, you should orientate the rift flames on the top of the finished shaft to point at the arrow head. Although it is not common to have a shaft break on release, if it does, the shooter will be safer if orientated this way. I hope your research leads you to agree. Russ.
BowEd:
Yes I'm good with the way I make my split timber shafts.The points are visible of the flames of the rift on page 230.I've never had a shaft break into my hand as what we are talking about.Off some highly reflexed bows too yet if that makes a diff.
Ed.
BowEd:
Another reference as to what I mean RB.Been making them this way for quite a while and it's the correct way with no problems.There was some glare on the first picture from the fash.Here's a better picture.
RBLusthaus:
Ed
I can understand you not wanting to change the method you have been using, but if it can be improved, maybe you should give it some consideration??? As to the pics you reference, they demonstrate or indicate that the rift grain flames of the shafts should point towards the arrow head, on the top of the arrow, as it sits on the shelf, as I have been attempting to explain.
With the picture from the book you just posted, only the bottom right photo indicates in which direction the arrow head is to be (to the left). The grain of the arrow in this picture shows the rift flames facing towards the head.
In TBB, on page 230, there is a stick figure drawing re spine. But the facing page 231, shows an arrow sitting on a grain scale. The rift grain flames are visible in this picture, and they too, are oriented so as to face the arrow head on the top of the shaft (we can tell it is the top of shaft due to the nock and nock indicator).
So, once again, I am thinking, if these pictures of the arrow rift grain are how you orient your shafts, then we are in agreement. From your other writings in this thread, though, I got the impression you were advocating that the rift grain flames on the top of the shaft should be pointing to the nock end of the arrow - and if this is what you believe, then not only do we disagree, but I also believe you are mis-understanding the pictures and diagrams you have drawn attention to.
Russ
BowEd:
RB...My interpretation of the pictures is correct.The way I make them the arrow if it does break will angle off away from my bow hand.Leaving the points from the broken arrow pointing away from the bow hand. I believe your wrong and we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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