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StickMark:
In the natural blind along side a marsh, my hunting partner pulls back his compound bow.  He is on his knees, aiming at an imaginary deer.  He lets down and informs me that he not drawn his bow at all from any position other than standing.  That is the first time drawing while  kneeling.  ??? Two years prior, he missed caused he stood while two giants were about to be killed in self defense; they were going to run over us.  He stood up out of habit! 
BTW, that very day a non legal buck came in to that blind, 16 yards max, and would have required a kneeling draw.

Another good friend, who has killed about 70 deer with compounds, shared with him the need to shoot from all positions: sitting, kneeling, twisted up, downward dog, spiraling communist, etc... Sometimes people do not listen, lol.  I have harvested 6 in nine years, two with rifle, four with sticks bows (Arizona is a one buck a year state, so holding out for a big one can mean being a vegetarian ). Not one deer gave me the stand and deliver option.  Only one deer from a standing shot, but peering over a cliff. all others were sitting, sitting-kneeling or semi squat.  I am building the shorter, 56 inches now, Ishi bow to fit my hunting technique.

I wonder if the other stickbow hunters out West have similar experiences. 

Tradgang had a thread on Joel turner's mental-trigger method.  This is similar thread, imo.

bradsmith2010:
    great comments and suggestions,,
ok lets go back to shooting from a stand,, its easy to pratice shooting off the ground,,
Ok,, one thing Byron did is come to a consistant draw every time,,(except flying targets)
that was a difficult one for me,,
when you are aiming down ,, easy for your draw to change and  there are some people can shoot with a varied draw,, he would draw till his broad head hit his finger,,
ok for me I always shot a longer arrow,,so I would put a piece of tape on the arrows to practice with,, at my full draw for that bow,, and practice pulling to the tape to be consistant,,
if you do that enough you will get consistant with that bow and arrow set up,,,and do it automaticly,,
   I shoot so many bows with different draws,, when I get ready to hunt,, having the tape on arrow really helps me practice,, the tape is on my stump shooting arrows too,,
    ok about the longer arrow, at one time I shot a high anchor under my eye, and at 20 yards if I put the tip of the arrow on the target thats where it hit, my point on was 20 with a longer arrow,,, this was a great hunting set up for me and killed deer shooting like that,, now as I started shooting shorter bows with no anchor that did not work,, and I had to just practice more to be consistant on game,,
     so I am suggesting  you mark your arrow and hit that mark when shooting down,,,take 5 practice arrows to your stand,, sometimes I shoot them when I get in my stand, ,probably not a great idea but I do it any way,, and sometimes at dark when I am leaving,,  bend at the waist and hit your full draw,, shoot some sitting too,, sometimes you take a break and deer comes,, no need to stand and spook it if you are confident shooting in a sitting position,, (SH) (SH)
      I have never had a deer smell my practice arrow and spook,, even though I am sure that could happen,,,
      Ok  about shooting at deer that see you,, Jerry would shoot them,, I agree a deer with no idea you are there is a best option,, but Jerry felt he had a few seconds to pull off the shot and would,, that was just his take on it,
       I have had  deer head down feeding jump out of the way of my arrow just as well as ones thta were on alert,, so I am not sure there is much difference,,,it does seem the ones slowly walking dont hear the arrow as well, but I am not certain about that either,,,if its a good angle and close I shoot and aim at the bottom of the deer,,,
        for example I shot a deer slowly walking, less than 10 yards from a tree,,,, the deer still ducked so hard that the arrow came out higher than the entrance,,the deer was not alerted and did not know I was there,, so its very hard to predict,, I think if you have the deer less than 10,, and your bow is drawn it is a high percentage shot,,I will pick a spot low,
        i dont think there is a formula that will work, you just have to shoot at deer and learn wht works best for you,, the only way to get good at it,, is shoot at them,,

   

Morgan:
Do you guys shoot low every time when taking a shot on deer?

BowEd:
Morgan....With me shooting from a stand is a little like shooting at something down a steep hill.I always seem to hit high holding my bow arm at the normal flat shooting level and every bow is'nt always the same either but pretty close anyway.That becomes noticeable while practicing & stump & 3D shooting.So the answer is no.

bradsmith2010:
Ed do you mean the shot does not go low,, or that you dont hold low when shooting down,,,???yes I aim at a low spot every time,, if my arrow does anthing it will go a few inches high,, well on a 3d target its still in the kill,, but on a real deer,, a few inches high can mean a miss or hit in back strap,,,so I aim low,,every time,, I shot a deer in Tenn and aimed low at the white behind the shoulder, thats right where it hit,, not a good shot on a 3d target,, but the deer didnt go far and my 6 year old daughter was able to follow the blood trail :) 

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