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BowEd:

--- Quote from: lebhuntfish on December 12, 2017, 11:44:47 am ---Thanks fellas! Thats some great info!
Gifford,  Ill probably still shoot the patched round balls.  They shoot way to good for me.  But I think I will just experiment some with the conicals.  Oh yeah,  the conicals are flat based.

I have some tallo and beeswax made up.  I think I will try to use that as a lube.  Thoughts on that?

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That's what I use for lube too Pat.For muzzle loader hunting I make quick loads out of paper tube wrapped around a 1/2" dowel.Dip the ball in the lube.The paper is the patch.That's all I'll carry with me besides some old underwear strip I use as a spit patch in between shots if needed and the short starter for the ball.My barrel shoots great that way.I like to travel light.....lol.

lebhuntfish:
Thanks Ed! I will see if I can make up some of those paper quick loaders and see how they work for me.  Ive seen them and talked to my uncle,  who builds black powder rifles, about them.  He said, once you get them figured out they are pretty slick to use. 

Patrick

lebhuntfish:

--- Quote from: Hawkdancer on December 12, 2017, 10:54:18 pm ---The maxi bullet was designed for the T/C Hawken and its close relatives.  Extremely accurate out to about 150 yards according to the PR.  The "Plains" and "Buffalo" bullets are also designed for the 1:48 twist rifles.  You just have to find the load your rifle likes, and pamper it.  Our resident BP gunsmith recommend the Buffalo bullet and 85 hrs 3f in the .50 cal.  He has a lot of pins on the elk kill map, and is a heck of a lot better shot than I am.  That load does pinch both ways, though!  You just have to see what works for you.  Have a good hunt!  Btw, how many seasons are there in MO now, and how many can you hunt?
Hawkdancer

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Thanks Hawk. 
In Missouri you have bow season from September 15 to January 15. It is closed during firearm Season for 10 days during November.  Which you can use your bow in as long as you have a firearm tag and wear your orange.  There is an early and late youth season one before firearm season and one after. Then there is an anterless only season the first part of December. Normally for about 3 days.  Which is for firearms.  They are always moving that hunt around.  Then this year we have alternative methods season  for 10 days starting the 23rd of December.  Which you can use everything except a high powdered rifle and a hand grenade.  But a black powder rifle is legal to use during any of the other gun seasons. Then you have hundreds of different special draw hunts some on state parks and some on conservation areas.  Way to many to list.  From bow to gun and everything in between.  There is more to it but thats a summer.  Oh,  and tags are cheap as well.  $19 for bow,  2 deer and 2 turkeys.  $17 for rifle any deer tag and $7 for an anterless only tags.  You can kill only 2 bucks,  either both with your bow one before rifle season and one after.  Or one with your rifle and one with your bow.  But you can only kill one buck with any type of fire arm. 
I could probably just keep going,  lol.  :-M :-D (SH) :-D

Patrick

BowEd:
Pat....After you make a 1/2" maybe 6" long paper tube glued on the seam with titebond tie the end shut with a thin cotton string.Insert your ball down tight.Tie another string then above that tight.Dip ball inside paper tube into your lube.That leaves you a tube on top to pour your amount of powder in.Leave enough paper left to fold over and tape it shut with making tape.Identify the amount with a pen on the quick load.
To use you rip open the masking tape.Pour your powder down the barrel.Rip off extra paper if neccessary above ball.No need for a patch knife on any of this.Short start it if neccessary.Ram the ball home seated well above the powder and after capping your ready to shoot again that fast.The lubed paper is the patch.My capper is on a leather string hanging from around my neck.
I've shot a double or two of deer standing in one place as quick as this can be done.Shooting the old doe first then the dumb founded yearling.A pic of quick loads.

lebhuntfish:
Thats cool Ed! So the patch works on the side of the ball? The ball actually sits right against the powder? What kind of paper do you use?
I think im going to make some of those!

Patrick

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