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Zuma, I got a massive overshot video for you.

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AncientTech:
https://youtu.be/bUYtsCV-AdU

Zuma:
Ben I would like to watch but my web connections are to slow.
I hope it shows tons of authentic Clovis points found in archaeological digs.
All with conclusive evidence of overshot  on them. I have spent as much if
not more time studying Clovis flaking as you have been attempting over shots.
If your video shows you smacking out six or seven Clovis points with over shots
contributing the lions share of thinning--- in a row with no breakage then I will
gladly tip my hat to your ability. But you will have to still prove that, that is what
Clovis knappers did. I have always considered you a excellent knapper and more
dedicated to your cause than most.
Zuma

aaron:
Zuma- vid is of ben demonstrating the "cushing technique". After 5 min , he achieves an overshot that clips nearly the entire opposite edge of a5 inch biface of tough-looking chert. I have been (silently) following the hubbub surrounding this technique for what seems like more than a decade, mostly on Paleoplanet. I'm glad we have finally gotten to the part where he shows us the technique and sources. I hope we can put put aside or at least separate out the debate over weather this technique was used by clovis people, and perhaps concentrate on how this can be put into the tool kit of any modern knapper. It seems to be a great way to get percussion flakes off tough material with small pieces of antler. Personally, I'm a moose billet guy, but I would like to give this a try. I wonder how it would do on large bifaces in the 10 inch range- typically what I like to work on. Wonder how it works on obsidian (which is 99% of what I work). One thing I note about ben's flaking is that the bulbs of percussion seem rather deep. Perhaps its just lighting. Ben can you show os a more finished biface or an edge with the deltas trimmed off? I try to avoid overshot unless the opposite edge is square, thick, or otherwise problematic. It can be hard to avoid on large late-stage bifaces.

AncientTech:
Hello Aaron,

Bulbing or lack of bulbing can run all over the spectrum, depending on where the flaker tip is placed. 

Here is the technology used in fluting.  Bulbing is diffuse.

By the way, the chert is hard but even grained.

Zuma:

--- Quote from: aaron on December 26, 2017, 09:12:47 pm ---Zuma- vid is of ben demonstrating the "cushing technique". After 5 min , he achieves an overshot that clips nearly the entire opposite edge of a5 inch biface of tough-looking chert. I have been (silently) following the hubbub surrounding this technique for what seems like more than a decade, mostly on Paleoplanet. I'm glad we have finally gotten to the part where he shows us the technique and sources. I hope we can put put aside or at least separate out the debate over weather this technique was used by clovis people, and perhaps concentrate on how this can be put into the tool kit of any modern knapper. It seems to be a great way to get percussion flakes off tough material with small pieces of antler. Personally, I'm a moose billet guy, but I would like to give this a try. I wonder how it would do on large bifaces in the 10 inch range- typically what I like to work on. Wonder how it works on obsidian (which is 99% of what I work). One thing I note about ben's flaking is that the bulbs of percussion seem rather deep. Perhaps its just lighting. Ben can you show os a more finished biface or an edge with the deltas trimmed off? I try to avoid overshot unless the opposite edge is square, thick, or otherwise problematic. It can be hard to avoid on large late-stage bifaces.

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 Well said aaron. My only contention is like what you said. Separate the Clovis aspect from this technique.
Something that should never have happened IMO. Why? you may ask (not you 1442 cause you get it)
Because it was (WAS) a myth propagated by unscrupulous people for financial gain many year ago.
And an also comical attempt to link Clovis with Solutrean cultures.
Thanks a lot for the vid description and your thoughts.
 If I may I'd like to ask you (since Ben never answers my questions or address my statements directly)- -- Does Cushing resrtict this method exclusively to Clovis?
Also does the five min time frame show any previous work on the blade prior to the removal of the overshot spall? In other words If I were wanting to show a fantastic overshot square edge removal with my moose antler billet. Couldn't I just film all my reduction until that one spall happens? Like they eventually always do.
Would you agree that most authentic Clovis points are in the 3" range and required no such technology?
That is not to say antler tine techniques were not employed by Clovis knappers but I see them best used
after hammer stone and or billet reduction.
Here is an early spear point made from our really tough local quartzite, I doubt the notches could have been
installed with out the use of a punch.
Zuma

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