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Arrow making process - questions
			FilipT:
			
			I have one more question:
I want to use beeswax and pork fat as a finish. When do I apply that to shaft and does it make any conflict with gluing the feathers, I mean will the glue stick to such surface?
		
			TSA:
			
			i think the normal glues may fail to adhere to the fat content, PatB needs to be asked, he is a strong believer in the spray shellac, maybe you can just spray the shellac over the crown area of the shaft, then glue on fletching.
but with that kind of finish, sounds like those arrows would be an awesome fit for a eastern 2 fletch  :)
look into that verdigris  finish- old english. you could do that, on the crown, and then finish with the fat on the rest of the shaft- 
you can do that verdigris finish without the green verdigris- and it will dry kind of clear- i believe- never used it but it looks amazing.
i guess you could glue your fletching on first then seal with the fat mix, but i dont think you would be able to replace a fletch at a later stage.
there may be some other natural sealants that may work as well, that are very primitive, like a natural varnish made from pitch and turpentine- i dont know the recipe- but i think i have read about Pat making some.
		
			TSA:
			
			http://www.theenglishwarbowsociety.com/TudorVerdegris2016.html
		
			FilipT:
			
			I heard of verdigris before, but I will reserve that for warbow arrows (I am also into warbows). Maybe I could just coat the first two thirds of arrow and than after gluing fletchings use some cloth to apply finish between fletchings.
		
			archeryrob:
			
			If your arrows are of a hardwood and concentric ringed they might not need a finish. You can use the pork fat rendered and use heat to penetrate the wood pours. You could rough it where you need to glue. You can also lash your fletching. Here is pics of a fletching I did with single twisted dogbane fiber. I used this as it holds up to rain and getting wet during hunting where hide glue would defletch arrows glued down when rained or snowed on. The black was just hide glue with charcoal to look like pitch to set the knots from untying. 
Another thing I have not had time to test is lightning grooves. I did not see them when I examined arrows at the Smithsonian, it its clearly documented about plains tribes using them. Many plains tribes used willow and dogwood which I've personally seen their ability to warp even in shoot shafts. Many of us have assumed that the compression of the wood like this might reduce its ability to warp. As I said, its an assumption and I have not tested it. I still have two Hazel field point arrows I should and see if they stop warping, but I have way too many hobbies and primitive archery isn't gaining traction at the moment.  :D
		
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