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yall have got me determined.

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Pat B:
Paul, What I mean is have the bud portion of the nodes on the side of the shaft instead of on top and bottom. The sides of the cane with the nodes is usually the stiffest side. I also cut the nock and point slots the same direction.     Pat

cheapshot:
Pat B. Do you compress the nodes while the cane is still green or after they are dried? Do you use oil? I usually file or sand the nodes a little. I would like to try the compression method.

Pat B:
Cheapshot, I compress the nodes as I'm straightening the shafts. I start with the internodes first, let them cool for a day and straighten the nodes and let them cool for a day then re-heat and compress the nodes and heat temper the entire shaft. Oil is not necessary but I sometimes use it when straightening but not when tempering. When you heat up the cane you will notice droplets of "sweat" appearing on the cane. When you see it, its ready to work.
   I have never tried to heat straighten green canes. I do, sometimes straighten green canes a bit without heat as they are drying.     Pat

cheapshot:
Pat thanks for the information.  I've read about the Korean Arrowsmiths  tempering their shafts over a bed of coals. Any tips about tempering cane? Have you tried using the oven?

cowboy:
OK Pat, gotcha now - wil giver a try :).
 Kenneth, I am now removing foot from mouth ;D. I don't know where I dreamed up Lil bucky, I was thinking about Elkie :).

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