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Side nock question

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JNystrom:
Here are some of my horn nocks. Some are bad, some are better. I had three big mistakes happen on my many many horn nocks.
1) I shaped the horn too much before fitting on the bow - always cracked the horn when finally fitting them on the bow
2) I didn't leave enough horn "underneath" the nock, which made the nocks split
3) I made the groove too deep, which made the horn split also - the running loop fits well even on shallower groove

So yeah, now i manage to make quite a bit smaller nocks and still they survive. That first picture is from a ~160# elm and made of antler.
Then there is a variation of bows ranging from 100# to 160#, cow horn and antler.

Final picture shows the running loop on a 140# osage. Self nocks do just fine on these low weights  ;D. Bottom knot is just a bowyers knot.
Meanwood is correct about keeping the nock groove shallow, i just had a quite hard time unstringing a 100# bow with running loop when the nock was too deep... What a pain.

FilipT:
What is really the difference between side nock and just a one regular angled nock instead of two? I am looking closely at the pictures but I cannot seem to get it. Something escapes my attention but I am not sure what.

meanewood:
Well the reason lots of people are using side nocks is because they are historically accurate to the 'Mary Rose' bows. Except X1-3 of course!

The way the bow strings were attached to the side nock is something we'll never be sure of but through experimentation, we can come to our own conclusions.

IMO, cutting 2 slots on each side of the tip and then using a loop is a simple and effective method but that's not what they were doing with those bows!

What I think strengthens my belief that a running loop was used on the upper limb and a bowyers knot on the lower limb is the fact that this method works perfectly well on both the side nocks of the Yew bows and the shamfer tip of the Elm bow X1-3!

JNystrom:
Basically the two groove nock is a glassfiber era invention if im not wrong. Sure native americans used two grooves, but not any non-tightening loops as you see in modern bows.
So 99,5%, of found bows had sidenock or not a nock at all.

Of course, you can also make the sidenock smaller than the two sided nock. Its also really easy to string a heavy bow with the sidenock solution.

FilipT:
What is the difference in the shape of the grooves between "standard" 2 side nocks and this "medieval" one?

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