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Offline upstatenybowyer

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tiller check and design question
« on: October 17, 2018, 05:46:06 pm »
This is my most recent hard-backed yew d/r. I'd like to know what you think of the tiller, but I'm also trying to figure out why this bow is shooting a bit slower than my last one.

My last one pulled 43# @ 27" and shot in the 170s w/ a 10gpp arrow.

This bow pulls 53# @ 27" and shoots in the 160s w/ a 10ggp arrow.

Similarities...

-Both bows have the same length of working limb.

Differences...

-This bow is wider and has hooks.
-The last one had gradual reflex (no hooks).
-The outer limbs are working more on this one.
-The last one kept more reflex, I think because I didn't let the outers work as much, so it took less set. Is that the reason?
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2018, 05:47:56 pm »
The last bow...
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2018, 05:48:41 pm »
This bow...
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2018, 05:52:19 pm »
Looking at the pics all together, I just modified the first post.
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2018, 05:54:43 pm »
It looks like the recurved one has a little less reflex, is that so?
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 05:57:59 pm »
Yes, Don absolutely. Upon looking at the pics all together, I modified the first post. I'm wondering if the first one kept more reflex cause I didn't let the outers work as much?
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2018, 05:59:22 pm »
My recurved ones are faster I think but I've only done a couple of each. I made a slightly larger(width and length) copy of my fastest bow and it was slower than the original.
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 06:01:58 pm »
If the second one took less set I would have guessed it would be faster. What about mass? How much do they weigh?
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2018, 06:04:24 pm »
Good question. I haven't checked yet, but I'm quite sure the second one has more mass. It's got a bit more handle and a tanned snake skin on the back. Hmmm...
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2018, 06:05:54 pm »
Just looking at how the string lays I'd bet that the first one has a higher initial draw weight. Are you set up to do F/D graphs?
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2018, 06:30:25 pm »
Yup. Work's been crazy, but as soon as I get a chance I'll do one for each bow.
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2018, 06:32:49 pm »
When I posted the first bow Badger suggested leaving the tiller as is. He said if I got the outers bending more I might get more set and loose speed. I think that's exactly what happened on the second bow.
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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2018, 06:35:33 pm »
Yeah, and I thought they should bend more. keep that in mind when reading my comments ;D ;D
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Offline Stick Bender

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 02:27:14 am »
 Im liking your bows lately Jeff 👍🏻
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Offline dratera

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Re: tiller check and design question
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 04:39:16 am »
Though slower the 2nd one looks a lot cooler with the hooks :-)
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