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Jakesnyder:
Heres a couple common plant/weeds that grow in western pa. Can anyone tell me what they are? I'm still trying to learn what's in my area.

Pat B:
The first one looks like dock(curly possibly) the second one could possibly be a milkweed. Break a leaf and if milky substance comes out then it is milkweed.

Jakesnyder:
Does dock have any good uses? Is it edible? The second one doesnt have any Milky substance coming out of it. Any other idea?

Outbackbob48:
Jake, I'm going to say dock also, and the second photo looks like NewYork Ironweed. If it is it will get pretty tall and have a purple flower late in the yr, August early Sept. Bob

Pat B:
Do the leaves come off the stalk in a whirl, on the same plain or are they opposite or alternate? A pic from the side will show probably.
 I don't think it's NY ironweed. We have it here and it isn't the same.

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