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The blight of feeders
Russ:
Maybe you should need to apply for a baiting permit. like a hunting permit except you don't just pay for a permit but you send them the reason why you need to bait, they check it out. if its legit it would allow a person a last hunt, it would give a person disabled in the right way a chance. and it would hopefully take the bad apples out of the bunch so instead of people thinking its for lazy people (and pearly proved this) because not all are, people will think a bit more positively about it because its helping the people that need it.
PEARL DRUMS:
They handled cross guns in Michigan that way for years, now its open to all during archery season. Personally? I don't care two rips what anybody uses or does within the laws of their state. Good hunters adjust and over come. Simple as that.
Mesophilic:
--- Quote from: PEARL DRUMS/PEARLY/PD/DRUMS on November 21, 2019, 10:23:48 am ---
Like cross guns, baiting isn't cut and dry and if I hear its for lazy people one more time I will lose my shred of patience I carry from day to day. Either of the MEN I mentioned above would hunt circles around most of us when healthy.
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I don't think anyone would gripe against tools and technology assisting in the situations you mentioned and many others who have difficulties. I would even go so far as extend the these aids to children and new hunters to make their fisrt experiences memorable and help them learn to control their minds and bodies for ethical hunting.
I think the basis of discontent is how these feeders are changing the sporting nature of hunting by people of sound mind and able body who just don't want to actually hunt. They want the thrill of the kill, meat in the freezer, but at a minimal effort cost and a nonexistent risk of disappointment.
I can respect sportsmen who need the assistance wholeheartedly, but refuse to acknowledge the indolent as hunters or sportsmen.
Russ:
--- Quote from: Mesophilic on November 21, 2019, 12:03:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: PEARL DRUMS/PEARLY/PD/DRUMS on November 21, 2019, 10:23:48 am ---
Like cross guns, baiting isn't cut and dry and if I hear its for lazy people one more time I will lose my shred of patience I carry from day to day. Either of the MEN I mentioned above would hunt circles around most of us when healthy.
--- End quote ---
I don't think anyone would gripe against tools and technology assisting in the situations you mentioned and many others who have difficulties. I would even go so far as extend the these aids to children and new hunters to make their fisrt experiences memorable and help them learn to control their minds and bodies for ethical hunting.
I think the basis of discontent is how these feeders are changing the sporting nature of hunting by people of sound mind and able body who just don't want to actually hunt. They want the thrill of the kill, meat in the freezer, but at a minimal effort cost and a nonexistent risk of disappointment.
I can respect sportsmen who need the assistance wholeheartedly, but refuse to acknowledge the indolent as hunters or sportsmen.
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I understand where your coming from but also try to keep an open mind. For me hunting is first trying to get food, second to be out in nature and enjoy it with my family, third to be more connected with the animal i eat. Compound an high tech bows aren't bad, I would say their very good. Compared to a traditional bow i would go as far to say (differing for the hunter) they are more ethical. one because if you have a hunter that doesn't want to put the hours upon hours of shooting he probably shouldn't be hunting with a bow but we cant stop him. The compound will be easier to aim for him making it more likely for a clean shot. it also delivers more penetration power which will make a cleaner kill and if the broad head isn't as sharp as probably we as traditional hunters would like (just under shaving sharp) it will still be sure to kill the animal quickly with a good shot.
Now traditional hunters normally put tons of hours into this allowing them to take a shot that they know that they can make and one that will be ethical.
Same with the markers. They probably want to make sure they don't hit high or low. anyone could put markers by their stand, baited or not, to make sure to get a better shot.
Then baiting. This one is more flexible. i dont know their incentives but best case scenario they may depend on that meat. I know they could just buy it but you know how much roasts and steaks and good cuts of meat are. if you didnt spend your money on burgers or steaks (if you normally and got them for gatherings or family) you could do a lot more little things with your family even if its the little things like taking them out for ice cream. This is the best case scenario for me an i want to give those guys the benefit of the doubt.
bradsmith2010:
I like that quote about never getting it wrong,, nice,,
I grew up deer hunting in Texas,, 50 something years ago,,, I shot my first deer,, with a rifle,,
I think there was corn out,, I didnt have a clue if that was right or wrong,, thats just the way they did it,,
I hunt with a wood bow I made,, and have to say have taken game in states where there is not baiting, and deer hunting was about the same,, and never even worried about it,,
I shot my first deer with a bow in Texas,,sitting in a tree with no stand watching a trail,,
I am not going to judge anyone for hunting a feeder if thats what they want to do,,a food plot or acorn tree is a much better option most the time, in my opinion,,
I live in New Mexico for 20 years now,, and when I draw a tag,, I enjoy the hunt,,
I guess since I grew up with feeders being the norm,,, I know I have the option to hunt any way that I like,,
I could even hunt with a rifle if I wanted,, I am just having fun shooting my wood bow,,
If feeders are having a negative imact on the environment or game,, then that should be take into consideration,,
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