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Offline Allyn T

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Re: Set
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2020, 12:07:46 pm »
That's prolly true, it's still interesting to learn even if the difference is negligible
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Offline willie

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Re: Set
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2020, 12:48:33 pm »
Thanks Allyn, I see That tim was speaking in generalizations, pointing out that hickory is a good candidate for the back of a laminated bow or reflexing. That last part about reflexing seems logical, but I will have to think some more before I can agree.
Anyways, the point being that challenging designs can be accomplished with hickory is reasonable. A straight limbed bow will still be a hard shooter and limb weight can be reduced with a trapping of the back. As Pat says, the differences might be slight, unless you were to make a laminated bow with some superior wood as a belly. The belly is where most woods fall down. Hickory bows have won flight shoots, but flight bows are built like hot rods, squeezing out the most performance at the expense of reliability. For hunting, of course you might prefer a bow that will not break when the big buck finally appears. I think Tim also said something about a bow with a broken back is useless, where as a bow that has taken some set can still remain a good shooter. or at least someone mentions it in the bowyers bibles.

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Re: Set
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2020, 01:18:59 pm »
Willie, one of the fallacies is that fast bows will be more likely to break. The opposite is true of flight bows and fast bows as they are barely into the plastic range so stress on the bows is minimal. Bows that are taking set are more likely to be over strained.

Offline Allyn T

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Re: Set
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2020, 01:30:02 pm »
Willie: I am very fortunate to have access too many varieties of bow woods. I chose hickory as my first wood because it will take more abuse before breaking and if I run out of arrows I can use it as a club  :o
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Re: Set
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2020, 02:09:46 pm »
Badger, I stand corrected. the flight world has benefited (new records set) from your 'no set" tillering expertise.

Offline PatM

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Re: Set
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2020, 02:42:38 pm »
If we are to believe Harry Drake's  claim of 544 yards with a  selfbow that may not be quite accurate.   That bow plummeted in weight and performance,  although it did not break.

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Re: Set
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2020, 03:36:03 pm »
  I have had some extremely fast bows that did plummet rather quickly. I don't have a good explanation for that except I suspect a very fast draw and release might give you a few extra shots before it damages too much. My best went something like this, keep in mind the weight was also dropping so it was only 10 grains per pound on the first shot,

215 fps-211-fps-204 fps 192 fps 184-176 167-157.  That is a major drop from set. The bow actually settled in at 36# and shooting about 175 with 10 grains, starting at 50#

  The English long bow I made for Josef shot over 500 yards but broke down a little in the 6 shots he made. He still set a new record with it somewhere around 450 yards.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2020, 03:42:26 pm by Badger »

Offline maitus

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Re: Set
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2020, 03:57:06 pm »
What was the Josef's bow made of?

Offline Badger

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Re: Set
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2020, 10:57:17 pm »
Boo backed ipe 90#

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Re: Set
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2020, 12:26:39 am »