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extreme FoC with wood
Titan_Bow:
I've had some conversations with a co-worker whose killed several elk with a lam longbow and aluminum arrows. He shoots a 60# R/D longbow, and I would assume about a 550-600gr arrow. He has shot several elk with this setup, using both zwickeys and woodsman. He was saying that penetration was pretty poor on all the elk he's killed, especially when a rib is encountered.
I'm building a mulberry bow for this years elk hunt and I'm planning on a 55-60 lb bow at 28". I want to maximize arrow penetration as much as possible. Reading Ed Ashbys recent articles in TBM rehashes some old ideas of penetration (ie. heavy arrows, 3:1 ratio head, etc.) however, I was really surprised at how much importance he places on Forward of Center and its effects on penetration. I've heard alot from guys that shoot carbons claim that penetration has been awesome with the extreme FoC carbons where you can really load up the weight on the point end.
I was thinking of going with tapered doug fir shafts and make trade point broadheads in a 3:1 style and try for a 200gr or more head. I think this would start to get me into the FoC range similar to these carbons. Anyone out there doing this? How do you match field points? I was thinking of trying to melt some lead fishing weights and drop it into a 160gr field point to bring it up to weight?? For the guys that make trade points; what sort of dimensions do you think would yield a 200-225gr or so head?
Sparrow:
I hunt a heavy arrow,I accomplish the weight forward by using tapered shafts with the big end next to the broadhead.I use heavy wood for shafts(Right now I am using sitka alder shoots(It's local) They are giving me shafts that weigh almost 800 grains.(Almost 30 inches long) The three to one ratio is good and it does'nt have to be weighted if your shaft is heavy enough.Some guys will weight forward thier lighter shafts by footing them with a dense hardwood.That works good too. You want an even transition where the broadhead joins the shaft and you want the shaft wood sanded down very,very smooth.I put a poly finish on the shaft to make it as slick as possible,this makes a difference.The broadhead has to be sharp enough to shave with. I can't see that with these things in mind you will get less than excellent penetration. Frank
welch2:
That's what my points weigh ,just over 200 grains . They are 16 gauge hot rolled steel.
3" long ,1" wide ,7/8" X 3/8" tang.
Ralph
Sparrow:
Wow Ralph !...Thats a great looking head,that ought to "Get "er done" Frank
Titan_Bow:
Did some research and Ace makes a 200gr broadhead and 200gr fieldpoints. I think I will try and make my trade points at 200gr and be able to match that weight with my broadheads.
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