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shooter123:

--- Quote from: Pat B on January 06, 2021, 05:55:21 pm ---Sounds like a sort of instinctive shooting. Just keep trying and adjust your shot according. You have to concentrate hard on hitting the smallest spot on the target and not just at the overall target.
Good luck.

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Thanks. So there couldn't be some sort of a parallel error going on? I am aiming the arrow, but at these ground level very close ranges (5-7 yards) it's just very odd how harder it is to hit the spot I'm aiming for. Like I said I can hit things perfectly fine when they're more level with my bow and I don't have to aim down.

Are they any rule of thumb aiming adjustments for such situations? I've never shot up or down hills but maybe that's the same situation.


--- Quote from: HH~ on January 06, 2021, 06:38:32 pm ---Do you what real aiming method your using?

Instinctive is just a person memorizing their arrow Trajectory. Not really an aiming method. You guess where the arrow will be at a given range based on how well your mind can remember the trajectory. After twenty five yards its is purely a best guess situation. Some can do well their entire lives shooting this way.

It cant stand up to a proven aiming method like gapping, SWing ,etc.

First got to know what your currently doing.

HH~



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I must be aiming then, not purely instinctive as I do aim using the arrow. For example I like to put empty drink cans on the target face (probably about chest height) and I can hit the parts of the can such as the brand names and letters when I want, I do have to aim for that and concentrate on form and release. But when I attempt the same for little 3d targets on the ground at close range they either end up too far forward and too far back.

I guess I'm trying to ask if there's a rule of thumb such as aim a foot lower or higher for such close range and low targets, maybe some of the tree stand shooters have noticed this when their target is near the base of the tree.

Pappy:
One thing you have to do especially if using some type of aiming system is bend at you waste so keeping your arm and shoulder at the same angle, dropping you arm to get on target will mess you up most every time, just keep your form solid from waste up and bend at you waste for uphill or down hit shooting. ;)
 Pappy

HH~:
Pappy is right. If you are just dropping your bow arm you are changing your the lentgh of your sight radius. Your making it longer.

You are tube shooting using shaft as sight tool. Up close with that method at 10yds and under youll need to aim under target just like shooting a handgun sighted at 25yds.

At that range it wont be to much. You will need to roll your upper body and bend some at waste towRd target to maintain you sight radius. So, if you olace a can on ground at 10yds you will be picking a spot in grass below can. Trust you spot you puck and shoot it.

Good Luck

Shawn~

Russ:
id say what people call instinctive is also partly aiming, at least for most. i shoot instinctive but cant hit squat if i cant see the tip of my arrow, but if in not focusing on my target, i start flinging arrows everywhere but the target.

I went to The marshalls primitive rendevous, in michigan and when i was there, they were having a bear across the pond shoot. I didnt have my own bow but i was using someone else's for the time being. All i can say is that when i shot, i was actually not doing too much aiming. how could i aim with a bow with no sight, that i had maybe 30 min of practice with. So instead I sent one arrow down, marking where my tip was (above or below the horizon, nothing specific) and adjusted for that untill the third and fifth shot... they both just felt... very right when i drew and shot. i didnt see the arrow hit but for some reason i knew it would (it did, and i did win... goodness knows how). now every once and a while, everything feels perfect like that, no matter if its close or far.

basically what im saying is its just practice. Practice until you get it right, and be happy when you do, then practice until you never get it wrong, and be proud of what you've learned.

also remember to look at what your shooting in a 2d perspective. there may be 25yrds between you and your target but in the end it only takes about 2" of vertical movement to move that arrow from 10yrds to 25yrds (and when your even closer it takes less and less to change where that arrows going). so if your hitting the ground below your target, just know your actually closer than you think.

Tradslinger:
I catch flack over this all of the time but oh well. years ago, I was very inconsistent in my shooting. I would nail something hard and then blow an easy shot. So I made myself practice on tiny objects at a bout a foot or so on the ground with blunts. Objects were live bees, wasps and such on clover. I kept at it until I had that distance pretty well "mastered" and then would back up one more foot and keep at it and so on. did this for a couple of weeks, getting out farther and farther. I would also float back and forth on the distance to keep my brain in tune with unknown distances and tiny objects. What I also noticed from doing all of this was how more focussed I had become on my target and I was used to picking a tiny spot to shoot at. It also helped me on my form and release as I concentrated so hard to hit the object. Since then, I went to shooting dried beans and 1/2" red Pom Poms. I even glue these to fishing line and suspend fressly in front of a backstop or target. A total game changer for me on everything from Bowfishing to small game and big game. I quit shooting at things and became more focussed plus got my brain tuned into what I was trying to do. The brain is so awesome when we use it like we should. 

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