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Wanted "bird point" article feedback...
Wolf Watcher:
Billy: Haven't read the article yet, but have found so many of them here in Northwest Wyoming that I believe they were used for all types of big game including Mountain Sheep by the "sheepeaters". They are also found at the bottom of buffalo jumps because the archers could send a long shafted arrow deep into a wounded buffalo. Back when we could hunt with stone points, if a missed shot ended with a still usable shaft, I would just reflake the point and use the arrow again. Some times that meant a very small point. Worked just fine. The term "bird point" is very misleading! Watcher
huntertrapper:
i thought it was neat, i dont have flint to knap but use glass and it was imformative...
D. Tiller:
I dont think the majority of bird points were reworked from larger points. If you look closley you can tell a point that has been reworked and sharpened in that the base is usually much wider than the rest of the head.
Have not read the article yet. Need to get into the post office and get my mail. Cant wait to read it! Especially the penetration test. Did you test also on how they did against bone. Something makes me think they would have the tendency to break and penetrate bone or glance off easily and continue penetration.
How ya doin Billy? You ever going to get back east again and join us arround the ol' Volcano knapping obsidian?
David T
DanaM:
Just read the article, enjoyed it billy. Also made some bird points tonight, I'm just a beginer at Knapping and brought home a bunch of flakes from Pappy's that the more experienced guys considered junk, but guess what I managed to get some points out of them ;D Actually their not bad and sharp as all heck, I can see how they would penetrate deep and kill efficiently. It may very well have been a case of maximizing their available materials. Anyway doubt if we will ever know fer sure.
D. Tiller:
Hey Dana! Holy Wa Eh!
Well, out at Glass Buttes we were finding lots of bird points and that is one of the major sources for obsidian in the Northwest. So they were making them even though they had the materials to make larger points. So there must have been a reason they made them so small. Ishi once said he liked small points for hunting bear and large points for deer. Penetration ability? Maybe! But untill we start hunting with them we will never be certain for sure. Plus, the game warden would no like it! ;D
David T
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