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boomhowzer:
A field tip might be effective on a red squirrel or ground squirrel, but I’ve shot a rabbit with a razor sharp Zwickey straight through the shoulder and out it’s gut and it still hopped off, so I only shoot broadheads now. Those little critters are tougher than you think.

Pappy:
Broad heads for me unless I am shooting at stumps.  ;)
 Pappy

Allyn T:

--- Quote from: tradcraftsman on June 12, 2021, 06:50:09 pm ---I wonder if a field tip would be effective on small game?

--- End quote ---

Nope been there with a compound twice, both I had to finish with a knife.squirrels are vicious when pinned to a tree by a field point and it makes you feel horrible.

I've only been hunting deer for 5 seasons. Killed 2 with a bow(compound) both ran about 70 yards full sprint and then keeled over. Killed 4 with a rifle, 3 were shot well and all 3 ran about 30-40 yards and dropped. The fourth one I hit a little back( misjudged the quartering angle) he trotted 20 yards and laid down, before I decided if I should shoot him again he rolled over and started kicking (got the liver) didn't take long at all.  So in my limited experience a gun really isn't any faster than a bow for death, oh and I shoot a 300 win mag with a 165 grain bullet.

Pappy:
I have tracked deer for many years with out a dog early on and with one for the last 15/20 years and some of the worst tracks I have been on is gun shot deer, especially muzzle loaders , but that being said none were intentional so to me that's not cruel, do you hate it,  for sure you do but still not cruel. Would you take the shot back if you could, of course you would, at least I would but again still not cruel.  :) I am really tenderhearted when it comes to any animal and only hunt what I plan on eating or use so I work hard on my shooting and try to only take really good shots that I know I can make, but things still happen no matter how hard you try so if you want to do this you have to be prepared to mess up from time to time no matter how hard you try and except the consequences for your action, not for every body, some would just rather get it at the market and not see how it got there.  ;)
 Pappy

StickMark:
Agree with broadheads for small game. Velocity w stickbow is too low for a judo point to be reliable.

Your neighbor doesn't understand that people with primitive gear shoot much closer. Most modern people seem to avoid stalking up close. That is a weakness, and I am getting to despise seeing it in other hunters, and admire the trait in those who attempt stalking in on game.

Consider getting Meditations on Hunting, by Ortega Y Gasset. He is a deceased Spanish philosopher who wrote a eulogy for a friend of his, a wealthy big game hunter. Wikipedia makes him sound like the typical early 20th century socialist, but his book still applies. (As well, with anti-hunters, I first ask if they have seen a feed lot, dairy farm, hog farm, or chicken farm. Second, I ask if they ever tried being primarily plant based in diet. I have and do primarily plant based (better for my genotype), bur most modern anti's chow away and never saw modern agriculture).

one more month till AZ summer velvet season.... :)

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