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bownarra:

--- Quote from: Eric Krewson on July 02, 2022, 02:35:37 pm ---He uses a tillering gizmo, I can't remember if I sent him one or not, I think I did but after sending out over 300 my memory is a little hazy about who got them.

I don't get this slamming a guys bows that none of you have ever shot, what's up with that?

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Slamming a guys bows??? Who is doing that? Why exaggerate? I've made enough of these bendy sticks that I can tell how a bow is going to shoot by the limb profile and tiller - from many hundreds of bows experience.
When somebody asks their customers top dollar for their work it had better be pretty special. Simple as that. I would expect no flaws....I see flaws, that to be honest simply shouldn't be there.
Saying that all bows should bend out of the fades....doesn't really mean much either. However without pictures that show the differences we are comparing apples to oranges....and peoples feelings are going to get hurt haha. There are plenty of overly sensitive folks out there....
Remember 'one sword sharpens another'. Without healthy debate what is the point of these forums. Should we all just say oh what a wonderful bows and disregard what we can see?

Eric Krewson:
I have made more than a few bows myself in the last 26 years, I can't really judge a bow unless I shoot it or see it shoot, even the prettiest bow can be a dog in the performance department. I have made bows that looked like works of art but just didn't have it, for me it is all about the wood you use, no way you can judge that from just a glance.

We have a lot of osage where I live but not enough to pick and choose, it is pretty much cut what you can find. I probably had close to 300 osage staves at one time, I called them the good, the bad and the ugly. Over time I came to realize what wood type would make a great bow and what would make a so-so bow. Only my best wood went out in bows that I sold, I gave the so-so bows away to people just starting out and not really committed to selfbows.  I made most of my bows in an era before heat treating came on the scene, this has definitely been a game changer for bow performance in my later bows.

I should add that I bamboo backed a lot of the so so wood, glued in a reflex it transformed average wood into really high performing bows, I made between 50 and 60 of these bows. When selfbow tournament classes allowed these bows a lot of my serious tournament shooters preferred the bamboo backed bows. I found very little performance difference in these bows and a fiberglass laminated bow.

Marc St Louis:
Never heard of the guy.  Had a look and they are reasonably well tillered but the one I looked at was actually bending too much out of the fades and not enough mid-limb.  Bows tillered like that will invariably take set in the inner limbs over time which will affect performance. 

Jim's bow is well tillered

JW_Halverson:
I see his stuff online here and there. They are attractive enough. I do think that some of his tillering is not top shelf and some is. I think that puts him in the same category as me...inconsistent. Apparently, some people have decided his work is worth the price, because he sells a few.

meanewood:
Hey George, I'm listening and agree.
Perfect tiller should only look perfect if the stave was straight and had no imperfections such as knots.
If the stave has areas of reflex and deflex and or knots and imperfections then the tiller should reflect that otherwise its not perfect, it just looks that way.
I seldom steam or dry heat a stave to get it straight, instead tillering the stave to reflect the shape.

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