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bradsmith2010:
I just dont believe a cut in rest is better,,for most applications,, show me an example of improved performance,,, so I can get my head around it,, any example,,, I used my arrow through the buffalo as an example,, it was way beyond good enough,it looked optimum to me when the arrow came out the other side,,, so what would optimum be,, two buffalos,, ok I have read that some did kill the buffalo and cow behind,,  :)  with bow making, there are so many ways to improve perfromance,,,I just dont think the arrow rest is a major one,, but if you show me something Im open minded,, any example,,have not been convinced to cut a rest in Marc's bow,, if it needed one he would have done it,, :D right
   if the bow handle is close to center, what difference would it make if it had rest or not,,performance wise,,it would shoot the same stiff arrow,, it would get the same tuned arrow flight,, what???

mmattockx:

--- Quote from: bradsmith2010 on November 17, 2022, 06:45:30 pm ---I just dont believe a cut in rest is better,,for most applications,, show me an example of improved performance,,, so I can get my head around it,,

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with bow making, there are so many ways to improve perfromance,,,I just dont think the arrow rest is a major one,

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if the bow handle is close to center, what difference would it make if it had rest or not

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1) Arvin did give you an example - flight shooting. If he says a cut in rest gives better performance I will believe him. For less performance oriented applications I don't think it matters at all.
2) I agree 100%, the arrow rest is one of the last 1% things, not a major thing at all.
3) A rest/shelf is more consistent and centershot requires less arrow flex, both of which are more forgiving in the case of a bad shot/release. Again, we are talking about tiny differences. If your bow has a natural centershot handle then that should be the same as a cut in shelf in terms of paradox.

One thing to think about is Olympic archers and what their bows look like. If arrow rests and centershot risers offered no advantages why do they use them? And why are they banned from trad/primitive archery competitions?


Mark

bassman211:
2x mm, but if you are happy with out a shelf so be it. It is your bow, your arrow, and your little world.

bradsmith2010:
he didnt give an example of flight shooting,he just said it was an advantage,, maybe it is,, , an example would be like all flight shooting records use a rest, that could be true I dont know,,flight shooting is out of my area of expertise,,

I didnt know we were talking about olympic shooting,, isnt this a primitive site,,,

so you think cutting a rest in Marcs bow would improve perfromance,, because the olympic bows have one,,

Im glad to believe him if someone shows me an example,, if I was gonna compete in flight shooting and all winners had a rest,, I would get one really quick, ;D

bradsmith2010:
badger gonna post and say he proved it by shooting flight records with a rest,,well then ill say ok,,,

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