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does a bow with a shelf perform better
Selfbowman:
Brad the example is most of my records have beat the last record by not one percent but closer to ten percent. My bows have 15 records total. Four personal the others by other people. I assure you Steve will tell you stiffer arrows will go farther assuming they come out of the bow clean. You also don’t tune a bow to an arrow by cutting the bow more center. You take mass off the arrow until it spines properly for the bow. Unless you never miss and don’t break arrows. I’m not that guy. 🤠the less an arrow has to paradox the more energy it will hold. This is a fact not an example. Build a bow without a shelf spine an arrow to clear the bow and have good flight then cut the shelf in it spine another arrow for the same bow that is stiffer and then shoot it.the arrows need to weigh the same. If you don’t want to do all this then just take the mans word for it that has. Not trying to be smart here guys just been there done that. Most all of those records came from shooting arrows farther than Steve’s. He is a friend and has taught me a lot about flight. Arvin
Tommy D:
Listening to a podcast by Dr Ed Ashby on tuning ultra extreme Forward of center arrows it was interesting to note that he said non-center shot (even on compound bows) becomes an advantage because you can get a higher percentage FOC if you use a lighter spine/ lighter arrow and therefore to tune it properly you must force it to bend more around the less center shot rest/ bow.
To take the initial question/ post further if one assumes in a hunting bow that being able to shoot higher FOC arrows for the same overall arrow weight gives a performance/ penetration advantage, then it would be fair to say non-center shot helps!
Allyn T:
Would shooting a stiffer spine arrow but adding extra weight up front to change the dynamic spine recover from paradox faster compared to a lighter spine that flexes the same amount?
Selfbowman:
--- Quote from: Tommy D on November 18, 2022, 12:34:01 pm ---Listening to a podcast by Dr Ed Ashby on tuning ultra extreme Forward of center arrows it was interesting to note that he said non-center shot (even on compound bows) becomes an advantage because you can get a higher percentage FOC if you use a lighter spine/ lighter arrow and therefore to tune it properly you must force it to bend more around the less center shot rest/ bow.
To take the initial question/ post further if one assumes in a hunting bow that being able to shoot higher FOC arrows for the same overall arrow weight gives a performance/ penetration advantage, then it would be fair to say non-center shot helps!
--- End quote ---
Just use a heavier arrow for more penetration. Bear, Pearson and a host of other bowyers cut the bows more center shot for a reason and the glass had nothing to do with it. Arvin
bradsmith2010:
great discussion and info,, Im listening ,, and thanks for all that posted and posting,, (-S of couse I like the part about the non center shot helping penetration,, but I understand about rest helping arrows go further,,its very interesting,,and I enjoy the converstion, even in my little world.. ;D :)
thank you Selfbowman for your explanation and example,, :) :) :)
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