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does a bow with a shelf perform better
Tommy D:
--- Quote from: PaSteve on November 18, 2022, 10:26:11 pm --- I guess what I'm trying to say is what works for one application probably isn't the best choice for a different application. If I want to learn about performance enhanced arrows for hunting I'll refer to thre Ashby studies....if I'm learning about flight shooting and bow performance I'll refer to Arvin & Badger. JMO
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Agreed on the subject of horses for courses… I didn’t realise this topic was about flight shooting - of which I know nothing about. I just thought I would mention the Extreme EFOC concept as it related to arrow penetration/ hunting because I believe Ashby has only fairly recently distinguished extreme Forward of center weight as being separately important to penetration from arrow weight per se.
It would probably also be fair to say that before the advent of light stuff carbon arrows, it would have been much harder for “traditional” bow hunters to build EFOC arrows.
One interesting thing about FOC arrows is that they also do not need such large feathers to stabilise them. I don’t know how this relates to flight shooting but at a certain point I would guess that having the smallest possible feathers needed to stabilise arrows may have some advantage in flight/ distance shooting… perhaps more so in the broadhead categories?
I always enjoyed this particular Ashby article on Extreme Forward of Center arrows https://www.grizzlystik.com/PR/Ashby_Papua_New_Guinea_Bows_and_Arrows.pdf where he proposes that the arrival of steel in Papua New Guinea led to a complete bow redesign from a palm bow that had probably been around for hundreds of years to a much cruder bamboo weapon but that could be built with much less center shot to allow the unfletched, much heavier 4000 grain 40 % EFOC steel tipped arrows.
Fascinating stuff!
bassman211:
If you experiment long enough you will find what works best for you, and your preferences be it flight shooting, or hunting. You guys have a nice thanksgiving, and pray for world peace. Things are getting crazier each day on our planet.
Selfbowman:
--- Quote from: bassman211 on November 18, 2022, 11:50:42 pm ---If you experiment long enough you will find what works best for you, and your preferences be it flight shooting, or hunting. You guys have a nice thanksgiving, and pray for world peace. Things are getting crazier each day on our planet.
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I agree
bradsmith2010:
I was thinking hunting and target shooting,, but the flight shooting was very informative,,
bassman211:
Arvin, and Steve know how to make a champion shooting flight bow Brad. They know their stuff. Ed, and Marc, and others make some really nice bows on this site, and share knowledge. The bows just keep getting better, and better. Nice to keep the craft alive.
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