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Pat B:
If you want a very dramatic bend on any wood bow one option would be to add a saiyah (sp) to each limb tip like on an Asiatic horn bow.

superdav95:

--- Quote from: Pat B on April 18, 2023, 06:35:42 pm ---If you want a very dramatic bend on any wood bow one option would be to add a saiyah (sp) to each limb tip like on an Asiatic horn bow.

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Great idea Pat.   It’s a great strong solution to get some serious recurve.  The v notch glue up is quite strong. 

sleek:

--- Quote from: superdav95 on April 18, 2023, 07:59:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: Pat B on April 18, 2023, 06:35:42 pm ---If you want a very dramatic bend on any wood bow one option would be to add a saiyah (sp) to each limb tip like on an Asiatic horn bow.

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Great idea Pat.   It’s a great strong solution to get some serious recurve.  The v notch glue up is quite strong.

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I wish I could be convinced of the v notches. I had one delaminate today that I made yesterday with tight bond 2. Also, I'm trying to make them light as possible and I don't think Siyahs give you any weight advantage? But... I reserve the right to be wrong there.

darinputman:
   I also boil and set with dry heat. Will try and attatch picture of form I have nailed to my bench with finished bow tip that was bent on it. This is the size curve I like best, short and quick.
   Have tried the big curves but not a fan.

superdav95:

--- Quote from: sleek on April 18, 2023, 09:00:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: superdav95 on April 18, 2023, 07:59:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: Pat B on April 18, 2023, 06:35:42 pm ---If you want a very dramatic bend on any wood bow one option would be to add a saiyah (sp) to each limb tip like on an Asiatic horn bow.

--- End quote ---

Great idea Pat.   It’s a great strong solution to get some serious recurve.  The v notch glue up is quite strong.

--- End quote ---
 

I wish I could be convinced of the v notches. I had one delaminate today that I made yesterday with tight bond 2. Also, I'm trying to make them light as possible and I don't think Siyahs give you any weight advantage? But... I reserve the right to be wrong there.

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Not to knock tb glue as I use it for lots of things.  I just don’t use it for my v notches.  I use good quality hide glue or epoxy 2 part resin depending on the build.  For more primitive natural material builds I’ll stick with hide glue.  I’ve never had one come apart yet.  I make a good 3.5”-4” long v notch and groove up the mating wood surfaces.  The hide glue is super good in these scenarios.  For a little insurance you could use binding thread around it even if concerned about the joint.  Ea 40 has worked for me in the past with v notches.  I’ve heard tell guys using other glue successfully like west systems and system three g2 to name a couple.  Best of luck to ya on your decision. 

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