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Muskyman:

Feeling the same way Hamish. To be honest my first thought was just that. After being disappointed that is. I might end up trying to take it down past the bad area and see if it has a light weight bow in it. I’ve got a couple other staves for backup. Also one I’ve been working on..
I’m kinda bummed about it but, I’ll be better when I get the next one made.

Hamish:
Don't worry Musky. I know someone, who might have done the exact same thing before. My ur  I mean his next bow was turned out just fine.

superdav95:

--- Quote from: Muskyman on March 16, 2024, 12:47:45 am ---Willie I think the red streak is where I got a little carried away with the scrapper to be honest. I think it’s a little thinner there. And yes it’s the same bow. I’ll post a picture but not sure if it was the same limb I marked in red same area but could be the other limb.

Pat it’s not really lifted at the spot. I rubbed a cotton ball across it and it doesn’t grab it at all. If that’s what you’re asking basically. When I saw it I actually tried to bend backwards to see if it would move and I couldn’t see anything but I didn’t really move it much if at all.
Obviously it’s lifted but at the very least it has been sanded smooth. It must have happened when I reflexed it. I just don’t understand why I hadn’t seen it before I’ve worked on this bow a lot since I reflexed it. I’ll post some more photos
First one is a closeup with my phone

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Ya mike it’s a bummer when this happens.  Like what’s was already said it likley happened during heat induced reflex.  You probably didn’t notice it at the time as it was filled with wood dust.  I suspect that it’s one ring or two that has separated when backset induced.  I still think you may be able to put slight flipped tips if you take measures to clamp this area of separation and keep it further up then the bad spot.  I might try and take it down to next good solid ring on belly there and match both ends and then add your flipped tips or recurves to maintain your desired weight.  It looks to me from the pic that your inner fade out area on right limb looks little stiff in comparison.  Could just be the pic but seems that way.  Best of luck with it.  There could still be a bow in there!   

Muskyman:
Dave, it’s possible it’s a bit stiff in the fade. Also there was a knot in the handle area and the limbs are not quite parallel to each other from one side of the handle to the other, if that makes sense.
At this point I may try and remove the problem area and see what happens.

Thanks for the responses and help and suggestions from everyone. I’ll post what happens with this bow and maybe try and document the process and end result for people like me who are still learning.

I have one final question I would like answered. I read somewhere, maybe on here, not sure.
Anyway, I read you don’t want to use steam for bending after you have used dry heat on a bow for bending. If I’m remembering correctly it said you could use dry heat after steaming but not steam after dry heat..   agree or disagree?

Pat B:
I've never heard about the steam/dry heat thing but I mostly use dry heat.
 The tips look stiff so you could probably take some of the belly down on both limbs. I'd super glue the crack first, let it cure out completely then scrape the tip down a little.
 Generally the belly side is more acceptable of maladies like this. The back is more critical and a clean back is critical for a durable bow. Not so much the belly except for frets.

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