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horn bow (non traditional)
superdav95:
--- Quote from: bassman211 on June 13, 2024, 12:59:46 am ---Impressive bow. Well done. Good arrow velocity. I have made a dozen or, so bows with just a bamboo slat for limbs with riser , and siyahs made from rock maple. They do OK, but they are shorter, lighter weight bows, and I shoot a short draw, so the 180's Would never happen for me, but still fun shooting. Like your bow I cut arrow shelves in mine.
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Thanks bassman! Ya I’ve seen you post one of them a while back. It looked good. The key to getting good speed out of these is heat treating you bamboo correctly and getting moisture out. the other thing with draw length is making them about 60” oal so the limbs sections are about 25” with the siyahs adding the extra length. If you are interested I can share some other things I’ve observed with these bow that can get you there if interested.
superdav95:
--- Quote from: razorbak on June 13, 2024, 02:25:00 am ---Wow you never fail to impress me. Very cool
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Thanks razorbak!
mmattockx:
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 12, 2024, 08:07:59 pm ---the siyahs are maple with buff horn reinforcements.
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Dave, I love seeing your experiments. What are you reinforcing with the horn on the siyahs? Is this for string wear or structural? The maple should be lighter and will be significantly stiffer than the horn if you were worried about the structure. Where do you get such large, flat pieces of horn?
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 12, 2024, 08:07:59 pm ---Its non traditional in the sense that its put together in five pieces like my standard 5 piece bows but just added horn and sinew.
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You will have to enlighten me, how does just adding horn and sinew differ from a traditional 5 piece bow?
Can you share what modern glue you used for this?
Mark
superdav95:
--- Quote from: mmattockx on June 13, 2024, 01:12:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 12, 2024, 08:07:59 pm ---the siyahs are maple with buff horn reinforcements.
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Dave, I love seeing your experiments. What are you reinforcing with the horn on the siyahs? Is this for string wear or structural? The maple should be lighter and will be significantly stiffer than the horn if you were worried about the structure. Where do you get such large, flat pieces of horn?
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 12, 2024, 08:07:59 pm ---Its non traditional in the sense that its put together in five pieces like my standard 5 piece bows but just added horn and sinew.
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You will have to enlighten me, how does just adding horn and sinew differ from a traditional 5 piece bow?
Can you share what modern glue you used for this?
Mark
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Thanks mark. Ya I used ca glue to apply the horn reinforcement horn onto the maple levers. It’s is more to prevent string from cutting into maple as the grain runs lengthwise. It’s also for string wear I guess too. Not so much structural. As far as the glue I used to assemble the 5 pieces together prior to binding with thread I use dewalt brand dual hot glue sticks. These seem to hold up well so long as you serve it after. I’ve built these little bows with all sort of different glue types to test out even a couple with Hide glue wrapped with sinew. Stanley is another brand I’ve used also that works. Any hot melt glue stick so long as it’s used for heavy duty and for use in the higher heat glue guns.
I meant that it’s non traditional horn bow in comparison to solid wood core of say mulberry or maple that may have v spliced syahs all carved and shaped as a complete core before horn is applied and then sinew. My little bow here is merely an experiment to see if a successful 5 piece Asiatic style bow could be made and taken apart if needed. I did not build this as a take down 5 piece build but it could be. So far my tests are looking good. The horn is hold up well and sinew does not seem stressed.
I got my horn from Noorbaba in India. I ordered a bunch of it while back and just working through it. They were all nice a straight when I got them but over time they twist up a bit back original shape. Nothing a little heat can’t fix.
mmattockx:
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 13, 2024, 03:46:49 pm ---As far as the glue I used to assemble the 5 pieces together prior to binding with thread I use dewalt brand dual hot glue sticks.
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Hot glue, awesome. I like hearing about this sort of stuff, technology never stops moving and we can all learn new tricks.
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 13, 2024, 03:46:49 pm ---I meant that it’s non traditional horn bow in comparison to solid wood core of say mulberry or maple that may have v spliced syahs all carved and shaped as a complete core before horn is applied and then sinew.
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OK, now I understand.
--- Quote from: superdav95 on June 13, 2024, 03:46:49 pm ---I got my horn from Noorbaba in India. I ordered a bunch of it while back and just working through it. They were all nice a straight when I got them but over time they twist up a bit back original shape. Nothing a little heat can’t fix.
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When you say 'buffalo' I envision the north american plains type. I see you meant water buffalo, which makes more sense to me now.
Mark
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