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Staining a stave after sealing and oil bending

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daffyhapless:

--- Quote from: StrawHat on December 14, 2024, 10:06:49 am ---If you debark a stave and seal the back with TB or other similar products that penetrate the wood, does that inhibit the deepness of the stain color? If the answer is YES, then what other type of sealer can be used so that the stain penetrates deeper. Or what can be done to remove the coating so that the stain will be a deeper color?

Also, if oil is used on the belly to add backset or flip the tips, etc, does that inhibit the  deepness of the stain color? If the answer is YES, what can be done to remove the oil?
 
What I have tried for removal is to dampen the wood with water, then slightly heat the stave (oil floats on water and TB will soften) and use a paper towel or rag to wipe off the oil and TB.

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A compound such as Titebond or another penetrating wood sealer penetrates the wood fibers and creates a protective layer, which can stop stains from thoroughly penetrating the wood. The sealer basically prevents the stain from penetrating as deeply as it would on wood that hasn't been treated.

StrawHat:
Thanks to all.
I guess I have some work to do in order to get the TB off of the back of my hickory stave. I did not chase a ring, just debarked it. There are a lot of indents in the back from the bark. I have used steel wool #0000 and removed most of it on the flatter spots but the indents still need some elbow grease. Definitely will use shellac next time.

I tried chasing a ring on a scrap piece of hickory, but it is very hard to see the next ring. Any suggestions.

Eric Krewson:
Chasing a ring easily depends on the light angle that you are looking at the back of a stave, look at it one way and you can't see  a thing, look from the opposite direction and the grains look like a neon sign. I have chased microscopic hickory rings just to see if I could, I used a flat and a round nose cabinet scraper, it wasn't hard but I have chased a lot of rings inthe past.

JW_Halverson:
Another easy choice is cheap mis-tinted paint from the hardware store, especially the latex. It seals nicely, but doesn't really penetrate. Plus, it's easy to see what's been scraped off and what has been missed.

A card scraper works fine for getting it off and a little tune-up with sandpaper finishes things off nicely.

But if you are going to stain the wood, do NOT go more than 150 or 180 grit at the very most! I sanded a hickory bow down to 600 grit and the stain wouldn't stick for love nor money!

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