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sleek:
--- Quote from: willie on July 03, 2025, 05:04:42 pm ---hey sleek, that sounds possible, but its hard to visualize in action. It looks from the pics that the strap is clamped down after the bend is made. Maybe Dave can tell us more about what it's for.
I was hoping you can say more about the "game changer" idea. What limitations do you hope to overcome?
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Here's a video for it likely ship building. Notice the strap on the tension side of the bend.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18RTHTaKwB/
willie:
--- Quote from: sleek on July 06, 2025, 06:02:20 pm ---
Here's a video for it likely ship building. Notice the strap on the tension side of the bend.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18RTHTaKwB/
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Yes, the strap is applied before the bend to limit stretching of the convex surface of the piece.
Raising a splinter is likely the sole concern of the shipwights.
With a bow limb, a strap applied (prebending, and in the location Dave shows above) will compress the limb's back, maybe unduly if it is expected to serve as the tension side of the limb.
Experimentation might be neccesary with similar methods to bring a bamboo working limb into the best balance of tension or compression qualities for becoming a game changer.
As bamboo excels in tension already, My guess is that whatever works best for the belly side of the limb will be where you find a game changer.
superdav95:
--- Quote from: willie on July 06, 2025, 07:24:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: sleek on July 06, 2025, 06:02:20 pm ---
Here's a video for it likely ship building. Notice the strap on the tension side of the bend.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18RTHTaKwB/
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Yes, the strap is applied before the bend to limit stretching of the convex surface of the piece.
Raising a splinter is likely the sole concern of the shipwights.
With a bow limb, a strap applied (prebending, and in the location Dave shows above) will compress the limb's back, maybe unduly if it is expected to serve as the tension side of the limb.
Experimentation might be neccesary with similar methods to bring a bamboo working limb into the best balance of tension or compression qualities for becoming a game changer.
As bamboo excels in tension already, My guess is that whatever works best for the belly side of the limb will be where you find a game changer.
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Yes. Very true. A balance struck. I’ve blown a lot of these up knowing where the safety margin is and how far it can be pushed before failure. Heat treatment really is the key component of all this to get the belly to resist compression crush or failure. In my opinion bamboo properly heat treated is tough to beat pound for pound.
willie:
--- Quote from: superdav95 on July 07, 2025, 04:19:50 pm ---
Yes. Very true. A balance struck. I’ve blown a lot of these up knowing where the safety margin is and how far it can be pushed before failure. Heat treatment really is the key component of all this to get the belly to resist compression crush or failure. In my opinion bamboo properly heat treated is tough to beat pound for pound.
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Have you managed to heat treat the bellies to the extent tnat the backs fail?
there were some test results published a few years back that indicated with certian species of Banboo, the core materiel (belly side) had compression qualities that overpowered the outside (back side) in bend tests.
superdav95:
--- Quote from: willie on July 07, 2025, 04:39:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: superdav95 on July 07, 2025, 04:19:50 pm ---
Yes. Very true. A balance struck. I’ve blown a lot of these up knowing where the safety margin is and how far it can be pushed before failure. Heat treatment really is the key component of all this to get the belly to resist compression crush or failure. In my opinion bamboo properly heat treated is tough to beat pound for pound.
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Have you managed to heat treat the bellies to the extent tnat the backs fail?
there were some test results published a few years back that indicated with certian species of Banboo, the core materiel (belly side) had compression qualities that overpowered the outside (back side) in bend tests.
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Yes I have. Although uncommon. More often it just splits up the middle. If the heat treatment is too deep it will make the back be more brittle and find a weak point and lift a small section of the In early tests this happened as I was purposely pushing limits to see. Bamboo can take a lot though.
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