ECHO II

[simk]

Thanks Guys!

Tuomo: I don't have a solution yet  These sleeves are made by a lot of bowyers and I have not heard about that specific problem. This was not my first one but there's always things to learn.

Right now its freezing cold and very dry here - however, wehen I made this takdown sleeve it was begin of december and relativly mild and intermediate climate here  - so that is my hope,  maybe I'm lucky Sure you have this effect more extreme in Finland with massive diffferences between summer and winter.

However I have already been thinking of how to improve that system - especially for drawweights like that. Thinking about putting some carbon also onto the male side in the future.

If this one does not work proper over longer period the bow will come back to my clinics and I will redo the handle as described. For now its gathering more experience.

Apart of that I find it a very smart and cool takedown solution, well doable with little material.

Cheers 

[Del the cat]

Stunning bow.
I don't think any other wood could take the stress of that design.
Del

[GlisGlis]

So sweet ! very very nice.
waiting for alaska pictures of this bow at the side of a bear 

[Pappy]

Now that is 1 beautiful bow, very nice job, that's one of them I would hate to send off. 
 Pappy

[Eric Krewson]

Amazing bow!

On my last takedown with similar sleeves I thought it didn't matter if I violated the ring on the back in the non bending portion of the handle at the end of the sleeve, it did. I actually violated several rings as the picture shows, this was a very special bow for a collector in California, I used a very dense but difficult snaky stave and had matched copperhead skins to back it. After it blew I told him I couldn't complete the order, this failure took the wind out of my sails.

[Selfbowman]

Eric I understand the wind being sucked out of you!  I would have thought that sleeve would have been fine also. What was the weight on the bow?

[Eric Krewson]

52#@27", The handle overlay is a highly figured piece of oak burl as were the tip overlays.

[gifford]

Echo II is simply a stunning example of the bowyer's art. It's hard to believe that the stave you had pictured ended up as Echo II. That is one beautiful bow. Congratulations on your skill and artistry.

[bentstick54]

 Eric, it’s hard to tell in your photo, but did you leave the final back ring run full length into the metal sleeve, or was it ended at the outside edge of the metal sleeve. I see Simk left a top ring over the final back ring to flush with his finished handle, not violating the actual bow back if that makes sense.
I’ve made 2 Osage takedowns with the metal sleeves, 1@44# and 1@48#, both 66” long, and so far have had no breakage issue. I left the top final back ring run into the full length of the metal sleeves, but really like the way Simk’s looks. I hope his holds up to the test of time, because I would sure like to give it a go.

[Eric Krewson]

I did not leave the top ring intact, a fatal flaw for sure.

[bentstick54]

Thanks Eric. I’ve been contemplating that, but was afraid to gamble it. I want to try the fiberglass sleeve, but will stick with leaving the back ring intact into the sleeve and maybe blend the leather wrap into the wood for looks.