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how sharp can a rock be, anyway?
D. Tiller:
Sharp! Very, very sharp!
michbowguy:
listen radius.
you posted the thread.
rock is not god.
who said anything about savages?
i do mind you asking questions that you get so offensive at.
as for obsidian and other rocks....primitives used what they found or traded for, and opted to use the best thing available...by choice, not circumstance...
so for your best intrest ,use your mind for something like RESEARCH and find out for yourself....or better yet, go out and spend your hard earned money for the "next best razor-replacement blade broadhead system"...and stay off the PRIMITIVE sites.
to the moderators who will be either kicking me off, or locking down this thread....
THIS ONLINE SITE IS GETTING TO BE A JOKE! HAHAHA
everyones a master crafter,or 100th part friend of a cousin to a REAL indian,and so he/she goes to the local retail store and picks up a traditional bowhunter magizine " i.e fiberglass,carbon,etc,scentlock mumbo jive" then comes in here and asks questions about the lethality or sharpness of stone????
hey radius, ask all of your compound buddies,or even your rifles buddies what there sucess rate is between "hit" animals and "in the back of the truck" dead animals are!!!!
i bet you that they will have stories of lost deer too!
it takes more than a stick and a string to be a good hunter radius. shooting them and making them bleed god is only one 10th the puzzle.
it is the people who envy and study the "ignorrant prehistoric savages" that puts the influence in our good hunting gear today radius.
so i guess you can call me as such.
and as to questioning its ability...i guess us dumb cavemen will have to sit back and watch all you fools spend your money on new age crap "cause its on t.v,and its done the hard way.....lol
dumb caveman ...oooga booga
Justin Snyder:
--- Quote from: michbowguy on June 16, 2008, 10:03:15 pm ---listen radius.
you posted the thread.
rock is not god.
who said anything about savages?
i do mind you asking questions that you get so offensive at.
as for obsidian and other rocks....primitives used what they found or traded for, and opted to use the best thing available...by choice, not circumstance...
so for your best intrest ,use your mind for something like RESEARCH and find out for yourself....or better yet, go out and spend your hard earned money for the "next best razor-replacement blade broadhead system"...and stay off the PRIMITIVE sites.
to the moderators who will be either kicking me off, or locking down this thread....
THIS ONLINE SITE IS GETTING TO BE A JOKE! HAHAHA
everyones a master crafter,or 100th part friend of a cousin to a REAL indian,and so he/she goes to the local retail store and picks up a traditional bowhunter magizine " i.e fiberglass,carbon,etc,scentlock mumbo jive" then comes in here and asks questions about the lethality or sharpness of stone????
hey radius, ask all of your compound buddies,or even your rifles buddies what there sucess rate is between "hit" animals and "in the back of the truck" dead animals are!!!!
i bet you that they will have stories of lost deer too!
it takes more than a stick and a string to be a good hunter radius. shooting them and making them bleed god is only one 10th the puzzle.
it is the people who envy and study the "ignorrant prehistoric savages" that puts the influence in our good hunting gear today radius.
so i guess you can call me as such.
and as to questioning its ability...i guess us dumb cavemen will have to sit back and watch all you fools spend your money on new age crap "cause its on t.v,and its done the hard way.....lol
dumb caveman ...oooga booga
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billy:
Hey Radius,
Stone can be pretty darn sharp. Obsidian and glass are the sharpest, high quality flint and chert is also scary sharp (at least the edges of the flakes are). Grainy chert that is of poorer quality is not quite as sharp as higher quality stone. Heat treated chert is very sharp.
When you make an arrowhead from stone, the edge is not as sharp as the edge of a fresh flake. But the edge is also much stronger. It's more like a saw blade. I sent some stone points to a friend of mine in Florida and he shot a 150 lb. pig with one of them. He said blood shot 4 feet out of both entry and exit wounds the moment the arrow hit. It only walked 10 feet and fell over dead. Turned out the point sliced the top of the heart completely off and when he gutted the pig, the heart fell out with the guts.
He then shot a 400 pound hog with another point and it passed thru both lungs and slammed into the offside shoulder blade. It split the shoulder blade in half, and the tip of the point broke off in the bone when the pig jumped. It only ran 40 yards.
I've talked to people who have killed game with stone points and they say that stone points kill quicker than steel points. I've seen the damage they do in game that I've killed with them and its pretty impressive. They aren't magic of course, you gotta hit the animal in the vitals, but if you do, they do damn good job of destroying any soft tissue they encounter.
radius:
well, guys, thanks for all your responses...i guess the answer is, in general: pretty sharp!
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