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bow-toxo:

--- Quote from: triton on January 03, 2009, 06:00:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: bow-toxo on January 03, 2009, 04:15:57 pm ---
Triton; Since you don't consider the book worth anything because it is ignored, you might as well ignore it. Great reasoning !  Good luck making up history while ignoring it. That is a challenge. Perhaps you will come up with something so much better than your historical heritage.

                                                        Cheers,
                                                          Erik

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calm down Erik, I was being sarcastic.  some readers of those books have cherry picked the parts they agree with and discount the rest as it doesn't fit their personal agenda.  If you read what I'd said previously, you should understand I have high regard for Aschams teachings.

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Sorry, the post was so much like those from the wheel re-inventors that I took it as part of the threatened big-time shoot down and my military training kicked in. My mistake.

                                                                                                           Erik

                   

triton:
well to me it looks like a good reason why laws are written as they are today, yet some still manage to find loopholes.
we're getting way off the original topic though.

Hartung:

--- Quote from: bow-toxo on January 05, 2009, 06:33:20 pm ---Sorry, the post was so much like those from the wheel re-inventors that I took it as part of the threatened big-time shoot down and my military training kicked in. My mistake.

                                                                                                           Erik                

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LOL  :D

stevesjem:

--- Quote from: Hartung on January 06, 2009, 04:41:24 am ---
--- Quote from: bow-toxo on January 05, 2009, 06:33:20 pm ---Sorry, the post was so much like those from the wheel re-inventors that I took it as part of the threatened big-time shoot down and my military training kicked in. My mistake.

                                                                                                           Erik                

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LOL  :D

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GROW UP BOTH OF YOU!
I've had it with this area on the forum, both Hartung and Bow-Toxo seem to feel they can get away with saying anything they want and do not think anyone else has as much experience and knowledge as they do. Well they are wrong, when they actually do some research of their own and it has some relevance to the English warbow, then and only then will people take them seriously.
Guys it's very easy to sit in front of a computer with a username that is anonymous and talk absolute rubbish, but I'm afraid the fact will always remain:

YOU BOTH HAVE DONE NOTHING TO FORWARD OUR KNOWLEDGE, ALL YOU CAN DO IS MAKE REDICULOUS STATEMENTS AND CHILDISH COMMENTS AIMED AT ME...........HOW VERY SAD BOTH YOUR LIVES MUST BE.

If the moderators of thisa site feel that i have been unfair by this comment and remove me from this forum then so be it.

Steve Stratton

Hartung:
Now, that is a veeeeery interesting post and a prime example of an ad hominem attack that I would really enjoy picking to pieces. But we are on a bowyer website here that’s why I will refrain from it – unless of course you are asking for it ;D

Why does the author chose to employ such an ad hominem argument?

“Ad hominem argument is most commonly used […] as argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or attacking the person who proposed the argument (personal attack) in an attempt to discredit the argument. It is also used when an opponent is unable to find fault with an argument, yet for various reasons, the opponent disagrees with it.” “The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.” (Wikipedia)

And

“The only reason for changing the subject to address the character of the presenter or author of a viewpoint is to avoid discussing the evidence. This makes ad homenim attacks unscientific, and experience has taught me that people who engage in baseless ad homenim are usually […] trying to avoid exposure.”
http://logic.timothycasey.info/

The author disagrees with at least two of my last threads
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,10215.0.html
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,10123.0.html

The author wrote three answers to those threads but later chose to completely delete all of the three answers and announced that he rather choses to “no longer post on this site”.


--- Quote from: Justin Snyder on December 14, 2008, 07:52:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: stevesjem on December 14, 2008, 05:01:06 pm ---I will no longer post on this site and will leave you all know in the hands of the very knowledgable Hartung.
Steve

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If you feel we are being lead astray maybe you should share more not less.  ???

--- End quote ---
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,10215.0.html

I would like to hold it with Justin Snyder and ask the author that if he feels that I’m leading PA members astray to present facts and not to delete his answers again since no one will be able to follow his argumentation any longer or understand why he acts the way he acts.

I’m inviting the author to debate the subjects he disagrees but to do it in a scientific way and not attacking people personally. I finally like to present a quote from Tim Baker himself quoting Comstock: “We're of no value to each other if we can't disagree." (Quote from PP)

Now, with this in mind ...  ;)

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