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data on the Mary Rose bows/arrows
Rod:
--- Quote from: adb on November 12, 2008, 10:14:48 am ---Making all the arrows, bullets, rifles, bows, kit, etc. the same for everyone makes practical sense. Therefore, all arrows can be shot by all bowmen.
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Except that bows and archers are not standardised to the same degree as rifles and cartridges, and this can affect where the arrow goes.
It might not be too significant if just shooting barrage fire to a distance, but when an individual has to be laterally accurate such standardisation could be a significant disadvantage.
I would not be surpised to learn that skilled marksmen selected and set aside shafts from the general stock, which even if dimensionally standardised, would contain a range of variation in shaft performance.
Rod.
jb.68:
--- Quote from: Ordric on August 09, 2009, 07:50:13 am ---When people talk of the Bows and equipment found on the MR, I often hear said,sentences which give this impression... "The Mary Rose was Henrys Flagship so it must have had the best and strongest Archers with no expense spared on equipment"..
However, I believe that the MR was not the Flagship of the fleet but just one of three refitted ships with the Flagship being the much larger Henry Grace á dieu known as the Great Harry.
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I know this is going a bit off topic, but there is reference to both as being Henry's flagship. It seems that in 1512, the "Mary Rose" was the flagship, but by time of her sinking she had been replaced by the "Great Harry." Though the "Mary Rose" remained Henry's favourite ship.
The Henry Grace á dieu was a much bigger ship and was also the vessel used to take Henry to France to meet Francis I on the occasion of the "Field of the Cloth of Gold."
She caught fire at Woolwich and was destroyed (1553)
An earlier incarnation of the Henry Grace á dieu was Henry V's flagship and she was also quite a large ship for the time (over 200'). She only sailed on one voyage (as the role she was built for no longer existed). She was then laid up on the River Hamble where she was later struck by lightning, caught fire and burnt down to the water line (1439)
jb
Rod:
--- Quote from: denny on July 29, 2009, 10:47:36 pm --- I just recently built a 80+lb 72" Hickory longbow which my 16 yearold can draw easily at 30 inches . It buries a 32 inch shaft to the fletching in a round target bale replica of that time.
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"A round target bale replica of that time"?
You might get such a shaft up to it's fletches in a straw bale, but a properly made boss of tightly coiled straw would stop such a shaft very well indeed until the centre has been softened by continual use.
Then and only then will you get a pass through.
These things when new (I own ten of them) are not so easy to shoot through.
Rod.
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