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Discussion: Survival
Pat B:
I believe the bow and arrow to be a perfect survival tool. Even though you can make your own gun powder you still have to have all 3 ingredients. For a bow and arrow, the components are all around most of us. Points can be made from found materials and objects. They are relatively easy to make and are quite effective.
Most of us will never have to deal with a survival situation but if push came to shove, I believe I could hold my own. I don't knap but if I had to I could make an assortment of stone tools...if we had decent rock here! ::)
Today's society wants everything handed to them on a platter. The easy way out! The 8 guys that I have been hunting with for 25 years, all very good friends, consider me the "token" primitive guy. They all hunt with wheels and as soon as possible get the 270s, 30 06s and 308s out for the rest of the season. They just don't get it. None of them "need" the meat for survival, although they all enjoy it for dinner. ;D They think what I do is cool and each loves the "primitive" arrow hanging on their office wall... but they don't get it.
I have rim fire and center fire long and hand guns. I have a black powder gun. I have lots of bows and bow making materials, arrows and arrow making materials, I have knives and hatchets and steel and stone for blades and points, plants for cordage, glue and dyes and clay for pottery...if I need it! The road I am traveling is going towards simple but effective! ;)...but I, we, are of a different mindset than most. I think we would all use what we had available, in the order of its ease, to survive. Hopefully it will be use by choice and not necessity!...and until then, "I'll do it my way!" ;D Pat
deerhunter97370:
I use a bow for hunting for convience. Here in Oregon rifle season is about a month for deer and for days for elk where I hunt. With archery I get amonth of deer, elk, and bear in the month of September. As far as survival say you are in a plane crash where would you get a gun in the woods. If you have been on this site long enough just from reading the posts you have the head knowleage to make a bow from stone. Joel
Minuteman:
Another survival aspect concerning bow over gun( not against guns own many) is the fact that guns make alot of noise. If you are hungry you can bet theres a dozen other hungry folks within earshot of that rifle going off. They come creepin in while you are gutting that much needed deer , incapacitate(or kill) you and take it to feed their family. The bow allows you to take game wherever you want without alerting others to your presence.You could even hunt parks and reserves if it was TEOTWAWKI.
That being said I'd probably just shoot it with a 22 that had a plastic pop bottle taped to the end of the barrel. , bottom cut off obviously. That or I'd just shoot it with whatever and take my brother or wife armed with my AR-15 style longbow to cover my back . :)
Lotta folks are gonna come to their senses too late. They will come to our doors knowing we had our heads on straight all the time and ask us to help them. I'll help all I can but after a while we'll not have much for 'em but they'll still ask for something , some kinda weapon to defend themselves. All they'll get from me is a butterknife out of the drawer. They can sharpen it on a stone, lash it to a stick and make their own meat. Guy I saw once called them " the butterknife brigade" they'll consist of all the anti gun folks you know now after the defecation hits the air accelerator. :o
Any survival plan that doesn't take into consideration how you are gonna deal with folks trying to kill you to take what they need to survive isn't a very good one in my opinion. :o Now as I think about it, well we won't go there I don't wanna get everybody's undershorts all to chafin'.......
Well I guess I will.A crossbow would make a good survival weapon as they are much easier for an untrained person to use. .A ten year old kid could save your but with one with very little training.They are also much more intimidating than a stick and string. Looking deadly is important in those sort of situations
My rant is over sorry if I hijacked the thread.
Jack Lannom:
Don't forget snares they are working for you while you sleep or get other chores done, I have spoken to old timers that say they had caught critters up to small deer in snares.
The "woodcraft" skills we practice as a hobby or "as a just in case the modern world may come to a end" should help point out how blessed in many respects we have it today.
However just like any skill you use it or loose it !
huntertrapper:
i feel i hunt the deer and other animals here for meat...i enjoy hunting and love being in the woods, but for me the meat is what feeds my family and we save money on gas to run to the store to spend money on the meat....i dont honestly think i could hunt with a scoped rifle or compound bow...instead ill shoot stickbows and my flintlock, its just the way i feel i am to shoot, my friends wonder why i do that and i just say its what feels correct, but as was being said, no we dont hunt to just survive, but in a way if a deer is not taken our freezer is empty...
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