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Mary Rose Replica Bow Build-Along--An Entrance into the World of War Bows
duffontap:
Three or four 78” Yew staves sitting on the drying rack kind of burn a hole in the bowyer’s pocket. So when the early archery season ended this year without any meat in the pot, I didn’t need any more reasons to pursue another archery interest that I’ve been putting off for a long time. It was time to start the medieval war bow.
As I was researching whatever books and articles I could find, I was somewhat surprised at how difficult it is to obtain pictures and information on the surviving examples of the Medieval-era war bows. Information that does exist tends to be third-person, word of mouth, contradictory, cursory, cryptic, guarded by the experts, blabbed about by idiots, popularized by actors, sensationalized by public television, and sometimes even wrong. Good source material is necessary for serious research, so we are faced with certain limitations on this thread. I was telling a PA member the other day that history is not a toy, and I do not wish to treat the noble things of the past with irreverence. I was beginning to think that finding a really good source of information on these bows might have to mean going to the Mary Rose Museum and breaking into the vault with a camera and dial caliper. Lucky for us amateurs, someone already has.
If you’ve been with this thread from the beginning, or if you’re a loyal Primitive Archer reader, you should already be familiar with Pip Bickerstaff’s articles on the war bow. When I was despairing of finding any information on the Mary Rose bows’ dimensions, I remembered those articles from PA and decided to write Mr. Bickerstaff to see if he could point me in the direction of a good source. Pip wrote back almost immediately. The information he provided in that email and following correspondence has been my primary source for what we are doing here. Pip has built Mary Rose replicas out of Alpine Italian Yew that are about as close to the originals as you can get. He disagrees with others, and others disagree with him, but he has handled the original bows, built many replicas, and otherwise proven that he’s someone worth listening to. As we begin laying out the bow—I hereby acknowledge my debt.
Step 4: ‘Laying out the Bow’ follows…
J. D. Duff
D. Tiller:
MORE MORE MORE!!!!! ;D I've been looking for data all over the place. Bring it on!!!!
D. Tiller
duffontap:
Step 4: ‘Laying out the Bow’
As Pip told me recently: ‘the reason there are no drawings is that almost every bow is different in width, thickness and length.’ From the bits and pieces of information that I’ve turned up—this is very true. Pip has also said that ‘you can’t build a Mary Rose bow by numbers.’ So, in laying out the bow, we have to be careful not to take anything for granted. Here are a few general statements on the elusive ‘average Mary Rose bow.’
1. The average Mary Rose bow is about 77.952” long. Most are about 76-79” with one as short as 73.622”, and a bow as long as 83.020”. (Source http://www.maryrose.org/ship/bows2.htm )
2. Bows were widest in the handle (of course) and measured about 38-40mm (roughly 1 31/64-1 9/16”) in width, with one bow only 30mm wide and others scattered in-between.
3. War bows were laid out like all English longbows—with the top of the handle about an inch above the center.
4. Width tapered very little for the first 20” out from center.
5. Tips were all almost exactly 12mm (about 31/64ths”) and completely round.
6. Taper was rapid over the last 10-14” of the bow tips, with the remaining space between this point and mid-limb being negotiable.
(Limb depth and section will be covered later)
I’ve included in the pictures a stave that I’m laying out, and my current bow that’s nearly finished. The dark lay-out on the stave shows a safe starting point. The bow, shows how the mass is placed on a typical war bow width taper. You can easily see in the pictures how the bow tapers very little in the middle 40+” and then tapers to very thin tips. Looking closely you’ll get an idea of how this width taper should look. A straight taper from the handle to the tips would not replicate the originals which were beefy to the mid-limb and then tapered rapidly toward the relatively light tips.
For comparisons, I'm 6' 2".
This pic shows the bow from about the handle out to the tip:
A couple things I did:
Start by laying out the handle--find the center of the stave and mark as shown:
To be on the safe side, I chose to lay out the tips about 3/4” wide to reduce the risk of a bandsaw accident.
After the outline was done I worked the tips down to just over 1/2” (later to just under 1/2”).
At mid-limb you bow should be just under the handle width (maybe an 1/8” under).
Be very careful around character. The knot in the pic was avoided in the bow, but created a bump in the stave that will be left a tiny bit wide for safety.
Feel free to ask questions if I’ve been guilty of being vague on anything. Take care.
J. D. Duff
D. Tiller:
Thanks JD that answers a lot of questions I've had. Now to go get some wood! Unfortunatly the budget is low so now yew wood. I will be making a laminate of hickory and either Ipe or Bububinga. Same basic design though. I'm aiming for an 80# bow at 31.5 inches of draw. Monday will see me picking up the wood on my day off. I'm itching to start!
D. Tiller
duffontap:
D. Tiller,
I'm happy to help. Good luck on your bow. Keep ckecking in, too.
J. D.
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