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water/cape buffulo with stone points........ has it been done??

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mdwatts:
Ozy,

I wish you well in your quest!  I'm rootin' for ya!  Once you begin your experimenting with stone vs. steel in penetration, keep us posted.  This will be quite interesting and possibly, new writing of modern history.

Good luck!

D. Tiller:
Ya need to talk to Billy. He has posted some articles in PA on this.

ozy clint:
okay guys i'm starting to think about this a bit more. i have no knapping experience so i need to see what points you would use. so i get an idea of what each design looks like. what stone to use and where i can get some. what self bow wood do you think would yield the most efficient bow for a given poundage. i'm guessing i'll have to work into about 80#. my draw is 28".

i've herd ryolite and raw texas chert mentioned a couple of times. what traits of these materials lend themselves to be recommended here? why raw and not cooked? i'm thinking 1" to 1 1/4" wide is going to optimal for point width. would you haft if differently than normal? i'm thinking that tapering the shaft point more and running the shaft end closer to the tip of the point. basicly a deep notch in the shaft so as to support the point better. what shaft material do you think would be stiff enough to handle a 400gr point out of an 80# selfbow?

what timber and what design would you use to make a selfbow of 80#? considering that performance is paramont! recurve?? reflex/deflex longbow??

Justin Snyder:
Raw ryolite and Texas chert are hard, cooked is softer. My main concern is strength since I already know stone points are plenty sharp.  I would go 1" wide on the points.  I don't know if you will get 400 grains, but you might. If you do get 400 grains just remember your arrows will have to be spinned about 25# heavier than normal. I think any selfbow or wood laminate will do the job just fine as long as you make it well.  An overbuilt bow is not what I would be carrying. Justin

D. Tiller:
Howard Hill used to hunt Buff. and Ellephants with 90# -110# bows

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