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Title: A tree riddle...
Post by: k-hat on July 31, 2015, 07:06:25 am
Name a tree that has sapwood and heartwood resembling osage, but ain't osage  ???

To be more specific:

Grows in North Texas
Has gray, scaley or flakey bark (small, fingernail size scales)
Bark clings to sapwood (won't peel off like a whitewood)
Much lighter weight than osage
Thick, cream-colored sapwood, light reddish-brown heartwood, thick growthrings for it's size (sap and heart rings are both about 1/4" thick)
Leaves were elmish if I am not mistaken.
Splits relatively easy

I cut this at a friend's property in a hurry and quickly (and mistakenly) id'd it as an elm. I dont have the leaves to go back and look at.

Not looking for a positive id so much as a list of possible candidates I can research amd compare to.  I may post pics after daybreak.

Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: wapiti1997 on July 31, 2015, 07:18:54 am
Did it have any milky sap?  Sounds like mulberry to me.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: Scallorn on July 31, 2015, 07:38:14 am
I'm with Wapitit, sounds like a mulberry to me
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: Hrothgar on July 31, 2015, 07:54:10 am
Agree, red mulberry.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: Pat B on July 31, 2015, 08:23:31 am
I'd say mulberry too but I never had problems peeling mulberry bark from summer cut wood.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: bubby on July 31, 2015, 09:02:23 am
Doesn't mesquite have a creamy / yellowish sapwood and reddish heartwood
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: Pat B on July 31, 2015, 09:34:56 am
Mesquite has compound leaves.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: RAU on July 31, 2015, 09:54:28 am
id say mulberry too except for those fingernail size scales, I don't know could it be a cherry?

Heres a link to pic of wood


www.dutchcrafters.com/Cherry-Wood-An-Essential-Introduction/news/549


Heres another that shows some leaf, fruit and bark pics

http://www.carolinanature.com/trees/prse.html





Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: mullet on July 31, 2015, 10:23:20 am
White mulberry, makes an excellent bow if you can find a straight piece. The sapwood is White with large growth rings and the heartwood is yellow, but paler then Osage.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: JoJoDapyro on July 31, 2015, 10:25:10 am
http://www.mesquitewoodproducts.com/mesquite-wood.html (http://www.mesquitewoodproducts.com/mesquite-wood.html)
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: RAU on July 31, 2015, 10:36:24 am
yea mesquite wood does sound like what he was describing too im just not seeing elm like leaves and the fingernail sized scales. Im real interested in seeing pics of this tree
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: bubbles on July 31, 2015, 11:08:02 am
Sounds a bit like the mature  nannyberry I cut.  That stuff had a nasty smell though. I guess the leaves could be vaguely elmish.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: TimothyR on July 31, 2015, 06:52:06 pm
Mulberry. Had to save one from my neighbors. They wanted it cut down but it was not very old. But man is it dense. I got a few short staves about 49" long should make a great bow when it's seasoned!
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: Pat B on July 31, 2015, 07:48:19 pm
..."Much lighter weight than osage"...Isn't mesquite heavy?
It can be hard to ID a tree from it's bark. As a tree ages, it's bark changes. Leaves are good ID tools but not always. In this case leaves would make this ID easier.
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: sleek on July 31, 2015, 07:52:06 pm
Any chance for pics of the stave, and its rings?
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: JoJoDapyro on July 31, 2015, 08:41:53 pm
Maybe his fingernails are giant?
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: k-hat on August 01, 2015, 12:06:23 am
(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150731_215839_576.jpg) (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/k-hat/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150731_215839_576.jpg.html)


(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150731_215723_812.jpg) (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/k-hat/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150731_215723_812.jpg.html)

(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/k-hat/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150731_215711_390-1.jpg) (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/k-hat/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150731_215711_390-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: mikekeswick on August 01, 2015, 03:29:14 am
Mulberry   :)
Title: Re: A tree riddle...
Post by: k-hat on August 01, 2015, 01:06:32 pm
That was my initial thought after my misidentification, but just based on my memory of ppl here describing mulberry as osage-like.  I couldnt find any mulberry descriptions that were a solid fit though.  It felt like it would make a good bow, so now that I have some confidence its mulberry, i know what i want to do with it ;D