Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: whitewoodshunter on March 15, 2009, 04:48:20 pm
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After seeing so many Boo/Ipe bow on this site and others,I decided it was time for me to give one a try, I was not disappointed.After reading as much as a could on this combination, I contacted Rich Saffold ,and in short oder I had a piece of Ipe and a piece of bamboo on the way.Well lets get right to the bow! The bow turned out 68 inches tip to tip and 58# @ 26.It fades from .75 wide at the grip to 3/8 tips.The stave was a little over an inch wide when it came out of the jig and could not be bent, it was as flexible as a 6 foot piece of telephone pole!The limb thickness goes from a little over a half inch at the grip to .25 at the tips.The style was a hybrid, English "D" style with reflex/ deflex.The glue up was done with TTB3 and bicycle inner tubes as clamps.The bow holds 1.75 of 2 inches of reflex after shooting and unstringing. The bow shoots fast and very accurate with no stack, kick, or handshock. The backing was giant yellow bamboo Ipe core, and bubinga and osage tip overlays.The arrow rest is a small floppy rest. The finish is mini wax wipe on poly.I shot a 600 grain arrow out of this bow through a chronograph at a local bow shop and was getting speeds of 180- 185! Not bad for my first boo/ Ipe composite, and there will be many more in the future!!! Enjoy
Unstrung
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/whitewoodshunter/Ipe001.jpg)
Strung
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/whitewoodshunter/Ipe002.jpg)
Full Draw
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/whitewoodshunter/Ipe003.jpg)
Tips
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/whitewoodshunter/Ipe005.jpg)
Grip
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/whitewoodshunter/Ipe006.jpg)
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Wow brother, that looks like an elk slaying tool for sure... if you come out this year bring her with you and we will slay some bunnies and prarie dogs.. Hawk a/ho
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that's a nice one you made there!
180-185 fps,,, I'm impressed man!
boo-ipe is an awesome combination :)
Nick
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Great looking bow. I've been out working on my first BBI today, too-hope it turns out that nice. Looks like a good trout and smallmouth spot behind you there, too.
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Nice looking bow.Great job on the tips.Sounds, and looks like ya done yourself proud.
Looks like the Buffalo river in the background.
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The water in the background is the mouth of Millcreek where it runs into the Clarion river, I was scouting for turkeys an, trout, and stump shooting.It was a great day for it here in PA it was 70 degrees.
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:oThat came out nice. Im very impressed with the speed your getting. I think anything over 170 is fast. 185 is smokin. :)
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Nice looking bow, and very impressive speed...espeacially with a 26" draw length! Good job! :)
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Very nice bow,I have a piece of Ipe,and some boo,I may get some of you guy to show me the ins and outs of putting one together at the Classic.Never build one before but after seeing this one and several more on here I might have to give it a try.Very nice job and some impressive speed. :)
Pappy
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Looks like a keeper to me :)
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thanks for the replies guys. I really love this bow!!!!!
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Very nice,.75''at the fades,man thats narrow.That Ipe must sure be strong stuff.Congrats on a great bow.Tradrick
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From what I understand any wider isn't necessary unless you want a flatbow or an English longbow of 80 - 100 lbs.
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From what I understand any wider isn't necessary unless you want a flatbow or an English longbow of 80 - 100 lbs.
If you make a r/d bow it would be highly unstable at 3/4" wide. Thats my experience. Again that is really impressive speed. I never would have guessed it would shoot that fast at over 10 grains per pound and only a 26" draw. That must be a special board or something ;D
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Talk to Rich Saffold. He has made some that shoot even faster. He has one that is 9 years old, still has its same r/d shape and shoots in the high 190's?????
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Talk to Rich Saffold. He has made some that shoot even faster. He has one that is 9 years old, still has its same r/d shape and shoots in the high 190's?????
Sorry if you took that the wrong way. I just meant it is very uncommon to hit speeds like that with more than 10 grains per pound and only a 26" draw. Not saying yours doesn't. ;) Just would not have guessed it. So great job :)
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Good pictures for a really nice laminate bow. Gotcha bookmarked for March LamBOM fun, too.
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Took me a while to be able to get logged back onto this forum..
Your bow looks real sweet Bill, and looks like you got all the little things right which can make for a fast bow.
I've seen 26' draw bows hit those speeds with that arrow weight, and I think 28" is more optimum for 650-750gr. speed wise on these laminate bows..Selfbows are a little different in this aspect..Strings, loose skill, arrow spine, relative humidity all play into speed so I don't get too excited about high numbers and don't get down if they aren't smoking feathers..
Sweetness of shot, accuracy and durability mean more to me. Speed is just the by-product. Of course its fun to warm up next to glass bow archers at a big meet with bows like these... ;) Especially the snobs.... ;D
I think both modern and Elb styles can work with this thin limb. I just keep the belly flat on the modern style, and use a shorter limb length. I have a 55# 70"ntn modern style with 3/4" wide limbs and It's quite fun to shoot..
Rich
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Yes Rich it is very fun to shoot, especially the flatter trajectory!!!I love being able to aim basically the same from 10 to 20 yards.Around here deer like to jump/ duck the string and a fast bow is essential when shooting 20 to 25 yards at them.
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WOW, nice water!how is the fishing there?Mike
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Jesse, I've just made a bazillion of these bows, and what I have learned I try to pass on here. For how long you, and some of these guys here have been building bows what you make is flat amazing..The skinny bows are just more "different" and challenging kind of like using Ipe the first few times. To me this is the fun part.
The bow I mention here is just perry reflexed, but I have made several this past year which were center-shot r/d with a built-
up style handle sections. Part of it is making sure the grain runs straight down the belly, part of it is making sure no limb cross section is close to square, and also make sure you have a good taper both ways, as any straight sections tend to curve.
I find out if its straight during floor tillering since if it starts to twist now the limbs aren't bending straight, and then I go from there. Also the bamboo is thinner than on the wider bows and great care is taken to make sure its symmetrical.
I have made a few which had to get shortened, the tips tapered to one side and then used side nocks for the string. Some of these ended up working great after all the tinkering. My latest experimental bow bow does this a bit still, but I don't care since it feels like its cast is going to be real good.
Rich-
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Wow,
Very nice Bow... i really like the work yo did on this one brother... Good Job ;)
Looks like you got a nice spot for fishing to huh???
realy like the bow... i got a piece of boo backing waiting to be used but i was thinking of using this mystery wood i have here that looks like could be some breed of wlnut or ipe... might have to just try and make one too...