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Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: kdub on March 13, 2008, 11:48:57 pm

Title: scent covering
Post by: kdub on March 13, 2008, 11:48:57 pm
what do yall use to cover your scent when hunting?    im hunting hogs and im trying not to get busted again.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on March 13, 2008, 11:51:13 pm
Hawg doo-doo ! ;D..bob
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: david w. on March 13, 2008, 11:54:41 pm
 :-X
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on March 13, 2008, 11:54:55 pm
yeah urine the animal your hunting or i have smoked my clothes over a fire or rubbed with pine or sassafras. but you could rub your clothes down with whatever has a big smell to it in your area.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: david w. on March 13, 2008, 11:55:16 pm
do you rub that on yourself or put it on your boots?
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on March 14, 2008, 12:06:43 am
The hawg doo-doo er the urine David ?....bob
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on March 14, 2008, 12:14:54 am
my clothes and boots. i am gonna start huntin in buckskin this year, so i will probably smoke my buckskin shirt heavily so the smoke doesnt "blow" away after a while.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on March 14, 2008, 12:25:00 am
wouldn't smoke deter the pigs, are you messin' with me ;D   I have found a product called "power pig sow in heat"  wonder if it works?
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on March 14, 2008, 12:27:03 am
nope hunted with it. before. smoked my clothes the night before deer. the next morning saw 3 buck come within 40 yards and i was on the ground. they ran though because i tried to get up...i was sittin on my butt. :)
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: hawkbow on March 14, 2008, 12:36:13 am
Not primitive but I use the scent away product... and sage brush if i am hunting the plains and pine in the mountains... I have had elk at less than ten feet away with the wind in their face .... and they still didn't smell me..... the scent away stuff kills human odor on contact and the natural stuff helps to blend any odor that is left ... buckskins can hold a lot of scent so killing the scent instead of masking it makes sense... hope this helps..Hawk ..a/ho
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: wvfknapper on March 14, 2008, 12:56:53 am
I spent thousands of dollars on cover scents over the years when I shot a training wheel bow and nothing ever seemed to cover up scent completely,not even skunk scent.... So after I started shooting real bows I done away with all that Market money grabbing crap and really started concentrating on the wind currents and actually done a lot better at not spooking deer.........Me and a friend was using fox urine on our boots over a period of years on a track of land that we leased and you could watch the deer get a scent of it and run, they figured out that the scent was associated with humans and stayed clear.............I still wear rubber boots if hunting an isolated area that I want to return to, but other than that just keep the wind in your face, hunt above trails in the morning and below trails in the evening and keep your fingers crossed  ;D

wvflintknapper
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on March 14, 2008, 01:17:24 am
why do you hunt high in the am and low in the pm?
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: wvfknapper on March 14, 2008, 01:38:31 am
why do you hunt high in the am and low in the pm?

Air currents rise in the morning as the sun does,  and settles in the evening as the sun sets,,,, Take the dew for example,,, when the sun comes out it raises and as evening sets in the dew settles.

wvflintknapper
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on March 14, 2008, 08:17:32 am
 ;D makes sense  ;D
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: michbowguy on March 14, 2008, 11:01:22 am
always try to use wind in your advantage.

alot of time that game sppoks is not only ones scent. someone may think they were perfectly still or have no glare beamin on the critters, but in reality...the critters saw you from a distance, got curious and came in close to investigate...and then for whatever reason they split!

trust me it was you.you may think that it was scent but most animals not dumb, just curious.

tie a piece of tinsel ....just one tiny single strand ,from christmas on a low hangin branch on a good deer run with just your bare hand scent thet tied it up.
they not afraid of scent, they curious bout the looks.
they will even start to chew it!

but by then when they are so involved with the tinsel they seem to have run off with one of my arrows in its side.

ONE MORE THING.   "KNOW THE WOODS BETTER THAN YOU KNOW WHATS IN THE ISLES OF GANDER MOUNTAIN"

MBG
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kayakfisher on March 14, 2008, 01:31:03 pm
I use to use coon urine until one morning the sun was just starting to come up, and I heard the leaves rustling I thought its show time and started looking real hard for the deer but no deer when I looked straight down I saw to coons climbing up the tree I was In with arrows in both hands as daggers I valiantly defended my life and was able to persuade them that this is not the tree they wanted
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Justin Snyder on March 14, 2008, 02:17:34 pm
I have found a product called "power pig sow in heat"  wonder if it works?
Be carefull that some big old boar doesn't sneak up behind you, you might get a surprise.  :o

If a hog can smell in the parts per million, he can still smell 1000 human scent particles in the 1,000,000 parts of skunk or whatever cover up you use.  By all means use whatever you like, but if the wind is blowing the wrong way, you are busted.  Justin
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kayakfisher on March 15, 2008, 12:26:19 am
Thats it always hunt with the wind in your face and the sun at your back
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: adb on March 16, 2008, 12:31:06 am
You said it. All that sent baloney is just marketing paranoia. Keep the wind in your face. Our ancestors didn't have doe in estrous super dooper synthetic attractant scents.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Keenan on March 16, 2008, 07:09:00 pm
 Rub down from head to toes with what ever is blomming in that area, that is what will be most predominate in the air and you will blend in best. If sage is blomming it works great. And play the wind as best as possible.  Gettin close is where it's at and the funnest part of the hunt.  ;D ;)Keenan
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Postman on April 22, 2008, 11:40:13 am
I know it ain't primitive, but I am fairly certain that scent cover sprays  and doe urine (in the right time of year)  up your chances. I have very few deer outing oppurtunities in heavily hunted public areas, so I do what I can . Scouting/hiking  last weekend, found a pink marking tape trail right to my stand from last season >:(  where I shot a 6 point. there is an older thread around on this subject ( from January, or so?...) with some good stuff in it.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on April 22, 2008, 12:34:09 pm
ain't nuttin wrong with tearing down those pink markers, after all ther're litter, and youd be doing the parks dept. a service by picking them up. >:D
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: jamie on April 23, 2008, 09:31:21 pm
doodoo, urine and smoke. too be honest though an animal will smell ya no matter what you cover up with . wind is what matters.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on April 24, 2008, 12:14:01 am
I know that yall have tried and tested it, but why doesn't smoke trigger a danger response from animals? Wouldn't smoke indicate either burnin' woods or the presence of humans to animals, or do they not put two and two together?
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 24, 2008, 12:52:44 am
Smoke is a natural part of the animal world. Danger responses are usually inacted only when they sense danger NEAR. Smoke in the wind stream is not necessarily dangerous ta them. Animals and humans have been interacting fer thousands of years. They are used ta us. Smoke is a good cover scent as Jamie said as is tobacco when it is grown wherever yer huntin' Disagree about wind unless ya smell like a meat eater (carnivore ).,huntin' deer that is.
Its the movement an profile they see and care about IMO.........bob
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on April 24, 2008, 01:55:48 pm
Do you reccomend a specific type od smoke to use?    Whenever I have camped out the night before a hunt I have been carefull to keep a set of hunting clothes smoke free from the campfire, but instead I should have been welcoming the odor as a scent covering agent.   
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on April 24, 2008, 03:36:22 pm
any smoke...now i wouldnt say cigs or cigars, but like any wood, sage maybe, rub down with wild onion plants or id say hickry smoke, stands out. only if ya got hickry where ya hunt though. :)
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on April 24, 2008, 05:18:36 pm
Probably just sittin by a fire made from the local woods would do the trick.  I think that the wind will be in the right direction for my blind this weekend, so as long as it ain't rainin' I should be able to hunt that blind with the wind in my face.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: hawkbow on April 24, 2008, 07:09:06 pm
I have shot elk in the burn from the eighty eight fires, at very close range.. for cover scent I stood around the campfire before going hunting in the morning.. even after years the smell of burnt wood still lingers in the burned out areas.elk love torut in the burns and very rarely do I get busted.. KEEP YOUR CHIN TO THE WIND AND COVER YOUR ODOR IF YOU CAN, it will pay off ..Hawk
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: kdub on April 24, 2008, 07:53:03 pm
Im hunting in an area where there are very few wildfires, and I have never noticed smokey smells in these woods.  Would you say that smoking youur clothes is a practice that depends on the conditions of the land you are hunting, or is it a good all around practice no matter where you are?
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on April 24, 2008, 08:21:32 pm
good all around. used it last year in an untouched area with succes, no fires or anything around
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: hawkbow on April 24, 2008, 08:32:07 pm
I agree with Huntertrapper, the smell of woodsmoke doesn't seem to bother deer, I have spent countless hours watching deer and their responce to various smells, Tobacco smoke is a big no no. I watched as a hunter lit up, nearly five hundred yards from a deer which was bedded close to my stand. The deer caught the scent and was gone in a flash... I had been hunting that buck for days waiting for a close shot opportunity. Never saw him again until the next year, when I arrowed him at five yards. ;D Scent is the best line of defence the deer have and they use it against us with remarkable results.for every animal i kill with my bow I would say four more stalks are blown by scent,at ten yards we really stink to the deer.. Good luch brother and happy hunting... Hawk a/ho   
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on April 24, 2008, 08:36:10 pm
heres somethin though, my dad knows a guy who had to put his cigarette down while a big buck came into range for him to arrow him. though.....he may have been hunting in a highly populated area of people, the deer may have grown accustomed to the smokeing of people. but i guess it all depends on the age of deer, as for being around them too. the buck i shot last eyar let me get as close as 5 yards before. it was i think that he had never seen a human. it was on top of a large mountain back in about a mile or so.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 24, 2008, 09:02:35 pm
I have seen many deer lick tobacco juice. I chaw when I hunt ta cover scent and spit where I want deer ta be for a good shot. While they are preoccupied smelling and licking I have time ta shoot. Tobacco smoke is not necessarily a big no-no depends on what is in area and ifn they are used ta it. The tobacco thing pushed by all the popular mags aint necessarily true. Like I said before its movement and profile.......bob
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: hawkbow on April 24, 2008, 09:16:10 pm
Our deer are not used to the people smells and will leave an area if they scent something not right.. probably the difference between deer living around humans and those living in the mountains..Hawk   
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on April 25, 2008, 07:00:28 pm
coo-wah-chobee, you chew when ya hunt and spit it. thats cool! though if the deer ever been in a tobaccy field theyll smell it.
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 25, 2008, 11:52:53 pm
Tobacco is grown here as a cash crop. Thats why it works cause the animals are used ta it..........bob
Title: Re: scent covering
Post by: huntertrapper on April 26, 2008, 12:07:38 am
yeah figured something like that.