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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: huntertrapper on July 29, 2008, 04:26:32 pm

Title: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on July 29, 2008, 04:26:32 pm
Soon...i plan to do a "trek" to find my roots...to be alone in the woods...scout new hunting grounds....no modern technology....i am not sure how many days i will be gone, theres no telling, maybe 2, 3 or 4, i do not know, but my gear list will be small, a wool blanket, moccasins or bare feet, leggins and wool breechclout and buckskin breechclout, a buckskin shirt or wool shirt, some natural food and a canteen of water, kinfe and maybe a hatchet, im going to go back in far maybe a couple miles, in northern PA is where ill be going, ive been feeling i need to go away and leave the modern world for a bit, im going to do a bit of meditaing just sitting quietly under or tree or near a creek as the smoke from a small fire imerses me.., i want to blend in with the woods so there no tech. going with me, i never use it anyway but this time there will be no boots or jeans...those of you who have done this let me know how it was...and i dont want people that think this is crazy to think im weird but i feel like i need to do it and be alone for a while in the woods.... i will maybe take my longbow and quiver for meat but maybe ill use the deadfalls and snares or make a spear for a few rabbits.... anyone ever feel this way or done this?
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Cromm on July 29, 2008, 05:00:36 pm
Every Bloody Day Mate!!!
Keep safe and sane!!!!
Cromm.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Papa Matt on July 29, 2008, 05:03:23 pm
I've done it for shorter periods of time, but always wanted to do it longer. I can say I know exactly how you feel, and that if you are feeling the need to do it-don't let anything stop you! This is your soul calling out for replenishment, and if you don't do it, or if you do it incompletely, you will suffer afterwards, depression, an accident, illness, so do it and be careful. If you feel like you should do it for 2 days, be sure to do it for 2 days, if you feel like a week, be sure to do it for a week.

Personally, the things I have done is go walking on my dads land, which is partially wooded, at night in the summer or early fall on a moonlit night, or just take a whole day and go to the woods and do something if it calls to you, or do nothing at all. And I always feel better. But I always go alone, and from the sound of it-you should too.

I neither believe nor doubt it, but do you believe in the possibility of the existence of sasquatch? I have heard many reports lately coming out of Penn.. It's be neet to have an encounter while you're out there.

~~Papa Matt
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: gene roberts on July 29, 2008, 05:37:12 pm
I have also had these feelings,but not for days. Mine are mostly that I need to get out in the woods for a few hours and just relax. I don't think you're weird....one day I plan on doin that myself...Good luck.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Hillbilly on July 29, 2008, 05:39:27 pm
Nothing at all wierd about that, actually, nothing could be saner. I've done similar things a few times, it's good for the soul.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: gene roberts on July 29, 2008, 06:10:41 pm
What all foods are you carrying......are you going to carry a flintlock???
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on July 29, 2008, 07:40:47 pm
no gene ill think ill stick with a quieter longbow  ;D maybe if i had a smaller caliber flintlock id carry it but for this time ill use my selfbow...and when i was a bit younger i wasnt into spending days either but youll get the feeling soon.... and being in the woods makes the soul clean for sure hillbilly, Papa Matt, i have heard things before of the bigfoot, and im not sure if i want to run into the man when im alone.. ;D but there are many reports of cougars in the northern region ill be in, sightings from people we know good too, not just gossip...
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: hawkbow on July 29, 2008, 08:05:22 pm
A/ho young brother... as you know I have had the opportunity to live in the wilds with only primitive means for long periods of time ... all you truly need is a strong mind and a good heart for a short stay of a week or so.. this time of year water is your only real concern. mud will keep off the bugs, after about three days you will start to feel at home in the wilds. after that the hard part is coming home.... keep your chin to the wind and be safe... Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Kegan on July 29, 2008, 08:41:54 pm
Sounds fine to me. Not crazy at all.

The wonder of the wilderness is that, you don't need much. Some water, some food, and a consistent body temperature. Gives you alot of time to clean your spirit, to find your medicine. Honestly, you don't even need to go that far out so long as it is quiet, and you can hear nature.

Meditation is a very important part of life. That's why modern day life has such bad spirits, and such a lack of good Medicine.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: hawkbow on July 29, 2008, 09:26:44 pm
well said Kegan!
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on July 29, 2008, 10:19:16 pm
thanks kegan and hawk...i dont plan to take much but my main concern was water, i know a few wild edibles but water can be hard to obtain having to boil all the time...
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: kayakfisher on July 29, 2008, 10:43:21 pm
Go for it little brother alot of us have been there ! ate many things in doing it includeing pigeons .lucky I have a wife that understands when the spirits call and the calling becomes to unbearble , I go be survivor on a gravell bar for days by myself. clears the mind and refreshes the soul. As far as that bigfoot creature he will know your spirit and as to why your there and leave you alone Safe journey
                                   Dennis
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on July 30, 2008, 10:42:43 pm
kayakfisher...thanks sir...i too think that way, with if the bigfoot does somehow exist hell understand my wild spirit and know im a predator too and that im there in peace and to be one with his home, but that i will fight if i must...
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: JackCrafty on July 31, 2008, 01:21:47 am
Like Hawkbow said...the hard part is coming back home. :-\

I spent 10 months in a primitive campsite while I was at a job in Indiana......wouldn't trade the experience for anything.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: ricktrojanowski on July 31, 2008, 06:36:27 am
If I only had the time I would love to do the same.  Go for it,  just make sure you keep hydrated.  The body can go for quite a while w/o food but it really needs water.  Good luck have fun.

Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Minuteman on July 31, 2008, 03:02:34 pm
Yeah I think I would invest in some sort of water purifier or those tablets they make to make crick water drinkable. You might wanna make sure theres no farms up stream or older houses. I know for a fact that alot of older homes have no septic fields. That means fecal matter in the water you are drinkin.. Yuck.  :P
 Also let somebody know the general area where you plan to go and when you plan to be back ( latest date) so they know when to come looking for you in case the Sasquatch takes you captive or you fall and break a leg or something. Bein smart means bein prepared.
 Have a ball and let us know how it goes. :)
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: predatorcaller on July 31, 2008, 03:45:23 pm
thanks guys...i thought about buyin a small water purifer so i dont have to carry any water... and yeah my parents will know the area im in especially my dad becuaee most areas we go to he knows like i do and could find things in the dark... ;D but labor day weekend it looks like ill be doin the trek, i need a good one i failed my drivers license test again!  ;D so i need to get away... :D :D
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Kegan on July 31, 2008, 03:46:59 pm
And don't forget, if for some reason big foot does give you trouble bonk him on the head and eat him.

He is a critter after all ;).
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: predatorcaller on July 31, 2008, 03:47:28 pm
woops thats my dads PA name but it was me HT on his posting that! ha
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: kayakfisher on August 01, 2008, 11:56:05 am
Hey ! DONT YOU BE BONKIN MY KIN FOLKS ON THE HEAD NOW !
 Dennis
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: hawkbow on August 01, 2008, 01:42:51 pm
 I would invest in some water purification tablets or boil your water good... I have had the misfortune of Girardia and let me tell you it is no fun .. I almost died trying to get back to civilization with those little parasites eating away at my guts... better safe than sorry... Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: michbowguy on August 01, 2008, 03:45:51 pm
dont invest in the tabs, get unscented clorox all purpose chlorine bleach.
2-3 drops per liter, depending on clarity and if you are drinking from a pig wallow!
i like to use a mil surp canteen,u can use a gourd or sheep bladder,whatever floats yer boat...but just keep adding drops until it faintly smells of chlorine and not "muck"

just shake and let stand for a bit..

but before you collect it you shoud make a sort of sand filter and layer it inbetween leaves to get all the larger junk out.

before you leave practice on your fire making techniques.
when you get where you plan on staying for the night or cooking..start to make your fire right away.
you may run into snags along the way.
keep your flames low or dig a sort of pit for good longlasting coals...no whitman fires k!
im also a survivalist..of sorts ;)
jamie
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: DanaM on August 01, 2008, 03:54:38 pm
I advise against the chlorox method, Giardia and cryptosporidiun cysts are highly resistant to chlorine, the only way to truly be safe is boil yer water for a minimum of
15-20 minutes. I do know a little about water treatment after all I went to college for it :) My advice is carry in at least a gallon of clean drinking water and if necessary boil clear water as needed after that. Having been on a few survial trips before I would also recommend bringing some emergency high energy rations in case of unforseen accidents. You never know what can happen and its not worth your life of health just to go native for a few days. Make some pemmican bars if you want to stay away from modern power bars and such. Remember the unexpected can happen and the best laid plans are useless when something bad happens, as the scouts motto says "Be Prepared"
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: predatorcaller on August 01, 2008, 06:18:10 pm
thaks guys and dand i appreciate your help i think ill get myself a small water purifier
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Zach Roberts on August 01, 2008, 11:51:57 pm
Good luck man...I hope YE Olde Longbow aids in the fight against Bigfoot.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: ricktrojanowski on August 02, 2008, 02:34:46 pm
I would recommend aqua pure brand purifing tablets over a filter.  They are much easier and faster to use and cheaper.  Filters and purifiers have parts that can break or become lost. 
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: predatorcaller on August 02, 2008, 05:11:53 pm
ok thanks ill look into it rick an thanks Zach i think my longbow can handle a bigfoot... :D
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on August 02, 2008, 05:13:17 pm
again its me posting as predatorcaller i keep forgetting to get offf my dads name... :D
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Zach Roberts on August 02, 2008, 05:28:10 pm
If it is no "modern" things then I would use the boiling the water method....My opinion
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: ricktrojanowski on August 02, 2008, 08:22:59 pm
hunter trapper- you can get those tabs pretty much anywhere they sell camping gear.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Minuteman on August 05, 2008, 09:32:34 am
Only problem with the boiling is he's gonna need to be boiling a large amount of water at least once a day, like maybe a gallon or more. He wants to go light so carrying a large pot for that purpose would be heavy.Also boiling enough water to keep you hydrated would take up a lot of time. You'd be boiling twice a day. Pain in the Butt. Boiled water tastes bad anyway.Kool aid is good for the iodine taste or you can leave the lid off for a while and it will gradually get better.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: TRACY on August 05, 2008, 09:44:31 am
HT, if you run into Sasquatch then you have found the right place to cleanse the soul ;D. Stay safe and be smart.

Tracy
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Cromm on August 05, 2008, 06:26:07 pm
From the things i've read bigfoot is a tall...... So if you come by him....Kick him in the N*TS my man.......It has worked for me for the last 25 years!!! ;D Ohh and run.
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on August 06, 2008, 12:10:12 am
thanks cromm! good info lol... ;D ;D when i do the trek for a couple days i think the tabs or a small filter is what im dong...everything will be primitive except for this water purifier...
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: hawkbow on August 06, 2008, 12:23:48 am
Be safe young brother and walk the wilds with honor and integrity at the forefront... everything you learn while on your own out there will remain with you until the end of your days ... Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on August 06, 2008, 11:27:48 pm
thank you hawk...a/ho!
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Keenan on August 09, 2008, 02:43:19 pm
  Ht go for it and enjoy, as someone stated befor the hard part is coming back after you adjust to the conditions. Safewater bottles work great, I've been everywhere with them including into the heart of China. I used to throw on a pack and head into the wilderness for 7-9 days on a fairly consistant bases.  Great for clearing the head and heart. Just keep in mind that your not the top of the food chain and be safe. ;)
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on August 11, 2008, 03:04:00 pm
you did it in china? thats awesome, ive thought about some day maybe going there to visit the huge mtns. they have in the south, and thanks...
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: Postman on August 11, 2008, 03:34:27 pm
 HT - if more guys your age did this, we'd have a lot less problems! ,
-Get an edible wild plant book and concentrate on the safer easier to ID species like cattail, greenbrier, mayapple fruits WITHOUT  seeds or other parts of the plant,  ect.- once you collect and use them, they'll be part of your wilderness Kung fu forever.

-I second not trusting chlorine - Giardia got me on a wilderness adventure down by Latrobe - we spent a few days drinking that famous limestone "RR" water without boiling or using tabs for purification  :P  19 year old "Mr. Woodsman"  (me) insisted chlorine was fine. My buddy still brings it up and hassles me  20 yrs later.... ;D

-Maybe take some peanut butter and victor traps for squirrells?  >:D
-If a snake gets ya DON'T tourniquet it!

Good luck, more than a few on this board envy you for being able to do this!
John
Title: Re: Primitive Quest
Post by: huntertrapper on August 11, 2008, 06:44:15 pm
i have a good supply of survival books!  :D ;D thats pretty much all i read along with history of indians and trappers...but thanks postman for the info, and actually where ill be theres hardly any squirrels.... :( so i might have to contend with a porcupine or opposum or possibley fish... and the water filter is definitely something im going to get....