Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Jakesnyder on January 01, 2021, 09:44:54 am
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My family and I are ready to move out of Pennsylvania. Our views on alot of things do not line up with how governor wolf is running things and we see it only getting worse.
Also we want to move to a more agricultural state where we can sort of homestead.
The states we are looking at are kentucky and southern ohio. But we are not limited to these states. I'd love some input maybe from folks that live in ohio or Kentucky and there input on how free they are to do what they want of corse within the law...
Thanks!!!
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I can't comment on any particular state, being a Canuck and all, but others have asked these questions before you and compiled information on the answers.
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/
https://www.mercatus.org/system/files/Freedom_in_the_50_States.pdf
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/how-free-is-your-state-the-nations-most-libertarian-states
If you want more a web search on 'US state freedom ranking' or similar will pull up lots of info to look at.
Mark
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Missouri is pretty hands off. Lot of diverse landscape options too depending on which part you go to
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Oklahoma is solid, as is Texas. We have an awful lot of folks coming from states where the state economy has failed or taxes / cost of living is too high. My sincere hope is they don’t bring the mindset that got their home states into the mess they are in, and ruin our economy, cost of living, and taxes
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Missouri was my first thought too
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I live in Kansass but I prefer Missouri.
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Puerto Rico or DC.Oh, there not states til next month.
Tennessee sucks to many Kali and NYCers here.
Thinkin SD, WY or ID is the place.
HH~
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That's a big move and lots of things to consider. The main thing I would look at is the weather. For me warm is good.
I know if it was just me and I had no family I would moved to southern New Mexico. Las Cruces.
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Not place is safe after today I'm afraid. Dig in where yer at.
HH
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My wife and I have had this same conversation. We have been thinking South Dakota. We are having issues understanding how some people just don't like freedom. Good luck with your quest
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Theres more non SD folks in Rapid City than natives. Good luck there. Kali folks be running that town soon enough. Maybe in Yankton?
Hot Springs is full of non Natives too
No hiding after 6 Jan 2021. Half this nation is seeing what our elected officials are like under duress.
Spineless
HH~
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Not sure where that would be Jakesnyder, no matter where you go their is some problems, one thing I do know is this thread is likely to turn bad, so lets keep it on the question at hand, have a good day. ;) :) :) :)
Pappy
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That's a big move and lots of things to consider. The main thing I would look at is the weather. For me warm is good.
I know if it was just me and I had no family I would moved to southern New Mexico. Las Cruces.
Heh. For me warm is bad. I can't imagine living where there is no winter. Both my wife and I love winter although the crisp cold of -30 doesn't turn my crank anymore, well actually the crisp cold of -20 doesn't do much for me anymore either ;D but I still like winter.....
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Nice thing abut New Mexico is that you can travel north to the mountains and go snow skiing and then go back home put your shorts on and go look for arrowheads on the desert.
I think my suggestion is based on what I like to do and that's hunt arrowheads and metal detect the desert. I stayed home this winter because of the covid thing.
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Your right BUT you are only on the desert 8 hrs a day. I sold my trailer and stay at an extended stay hotel and you do go out into the public to shop, get gas etc. At 71 I can't take any chances.
Again IF I was alone I would be out there but I am not. I get really sick then my son has to deal with coming out there.
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You should research the laws in the states you are interested in and do some visiting and scouting. What is your impression of the people, what are your beliefs, and there is no one " perfect" place, just some that fit better. If folks are friendly and welcoming where you are, they likely will be the same where you go. Don't just pack up and leave, the devil you get may be worse than the one you left behind! Also, be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Hawkdancer
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True! That is why you don't want to be part of the problem!
Hawkdancer
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Come to Eastern Europe - preferrably Balkans. We have losts of laws, but abiding to them can be rather optional. :P
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If folks are friendly and welcoming where you are, they likely will be the same where you go.
Unless you are looking at my frozen corner of the country. Natives here have a history of disliking of those 'from away', as we found when we got here. (To be honest this is more true in some communities than in others.)
There is a reason for this. Same could be said if the native Americans before European arrival. “Natives” have a generations long history of making a place their home. Learning the place, and changing themselves to suit it so they can prosper. This involves tailoring laws and political climate to suit their needs and beliefs of what is right. A People that have generations invested in this can have it taken away in a blink through mass migration. Usually people migrate for financial reasons, sometimes just because they like the area. I am so open to people moving to better their life, but those people need to take a hard look at why things are not the way they want them at home. If a different place is far and away better, then they have something going that works, something that took a lot of time and effort through trial and error to put in place. That is why it is better than where they came. Yet many many people that migrate bring the mindset and political leanings that made where they are from unbearable. I do not believe new residents should be able to vote in local / state elections for a number of years because of this.
I want what I wrote above to be received in a politically neutral way. More of a respect the ways and climate of where you are moving, rather than an I need to change everything these people worked for because i see it different sort of way. It is about respect and an understanding of you seeked out the change not them, so their ways should not be the ways that change. If another state offered better opportunity for my family, I would consider moving. I however would not want to change even one ingredient of what made that better opportunity possible.
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Well said!
Hawkdancer
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This 100%. A friend of my wife and mine live in a small city in Utah. New residents to the town will not be issued permit to start a business until that have lived there for several years to prevent opening up of your random “Jersey Mike” sub shop. If this could only be applied to voting.
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Prolly won't matter now where you go in USA . . . .
The Woke-Topians will find you wherever your dug in.
HH~
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Hopefully Governors well still have enough power to keep the federal government hands off
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Thinking a whaling village of Argentina maybe worth a look after the last few daze. The next 10 days will really test the American people as to which way the Republic will go.
And we thought Woke Topians would fracture. Hahaha you bbout to see the Re Birth of the Bull Moose Party cept this new Moose will be a guy from FL. You are going to witness a guy they tried to toss out become bigger than his own ego and the Wokes will have built that individual. I see Huge Rallys every month prolly starting in April-May. Pay for Rally's, with football ticket pricing selling out coast to coast 20-80,000 seat empty stadiums filled with the Boyz in Red.
South Island of NZ is nice. Hunt year round, surf, fly fish and eat mutton. Whats not to like about that.
Lovin this stuff. Got to break a few eggs to make a western.
MAPA
HH~
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Don't worry about all this fancy politics talk eh, bows and arrows were around before all that, could well be it will be around long after that's all gone (; (no offense y'all)
So, look for pretty bits of nature, that's useful for bowyers and fletchers, maybe stone to knap if that's ur thing, to me at least that would be the ideal place to live.
Wherever there's bowwood in abundance, maybe good wood or cane or boo for arrows. If possible, birches, for bark. Nice temperate weather so u can shoot allot. Perhaps somewhere with plenty flint ot stone for arrowheads. Some ranges so u can shoot with fellow archers. What more can a simple bowyer want?
P.s. if u ever find that place let me know (= !
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Yep, all that and just to live like a free man.
Shawn~
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Next 10 days are going scramble some eggs. When they read what was on the 80yr old Chickens laptop from CA it's going to shock the weak of heart.
When you hear the funny noise on your radio and TV in the next 10 days don't panic. Just the sound of Freedom ringing out.
Shawn~
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Your assuming the media will allow anything to come out
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Seems like we are off topic, and getting very political!
Hawkdancer
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Seems like we are off topic, and getting very political!
Hawkdancer
Yeah.
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Yep , always does, please stop now our this is going away with maybe some of you.🤨Pappy
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Yep , always does, please stop now our this is going away with maybe some of you.🤨Pappy
Sorry for the politics
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Oops , forgot Bout that.
HH~
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Thanks, as has been said 100's of times, this is not the place for it, right or wrong, agree or disagree, this is just not the place, plenty of other sites you can go to if you want to blow off steam, but NOT HERE. ???
Pappy
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I will say the very title of this thread is basically asking about politics in particular states ::) but it got out of hand ;D
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They always do. That's why we have no politics and no religion rules.
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You talk about them as if they where created equal. I get the point though.
I've heard that one the problems with today is that people have made politics religious and religion political. :)
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You talk about them as if they where created equal. I get the point though.
I've heard that one the problems with today is that people have made politics religious and religion political. :)
Not that they are equal, just there is no two topics more polarizing than those two. People who would normally get along could easily become heated over those topics. It’s a good rule.
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there is no two topics more polarizing than those two.
You've clearly never seen an oil thread on an automotive or motorcycle forum then. :D
Mark
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Or seen a "whip tiller" thread on here lol
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I'm with Strichev on this one. Eastern Europe is looking pretty good.
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The grass is always greener.....Appreciate what you've got.....because....it's all you got :)