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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: The Gopher on April 08, 2013, 05:02:41 pm

Title: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: The Gopher on April 08, 2013, 05:02:41 pm
So i have a gigantic honey locust in the front of my house and there is one limb that just kind of shoots out there. Although it is hard to see in the picture it does overhang the house a bit and if it were to fall there could be some real damage, not to mention it looks a little funny where it is. would cutting off a limb of this size damage the tree long term? I'm just used to cutting trees down altogether :)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b194/MN_Littles/IMG_20130407_155819_638_zps928b64c1.jpg)

Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: RidgeRunner on April 08, 2013, 05:28:10 pm
That is a strange looking tree.
You could, most likely, remove the lower limb with out doing any real damage to the tree.

However, That tree is not structurally sound now.  The Crotch at the top of the photo is likely to split someday.  Looks as if it would crass right into the house.

The tree has been pruned so that it is top heavy.  All the lower limbs, but one, have already been removed.

It would appere that most of the limbs were cut a bit to close to the main trunk.  This invites rot and poor healing where the limbs were removed.

The good news is it is a Locust.  They are tough and can take quite a bit of abuse.  They don't rot very fast and usually have strong roots.  ;)

David
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: bowtarist on April 09, 2013, 09:15:45 am
You can remove up to a third of a tree w/o causing damage.  I don't think it;s a honey locust though, maybe a black locust.  Honey locust have thorns all over the trunk.  I wouldn't cut it mysef if it were hanging over the house, but a trained arborist would have no problem.  My best buddy is an arborist. Probably cost you a couple hundred bucks to get that taken off there.  If there are powerlines anywhere around, you may be able to get the power company to come take it off for you, but I don't see any in the pic.

To RR, you are supposed to cut limbs close to the collar of the tree, the thick part where the limb comes out, that supports the healing process.  If a limb is left too long, that's when the rot happens.   

Good luck, dpg
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: The Gopher on April 09, 2013, 09:32:39 am
Thanks guys, there are no power lines around, and it doesn't completely overhang the house so i'm comfortable doing the work i just wanted to get some opinions. It is definitely honey locust though, having worked with both in the past. There are thornless cultivars of honey locust and they're usually the ones that get planted at parks, houses etc.

I'll think about this next week after we get 6-12" inches of snow over the next two days!!!! What the heck!
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on April 09, 2013, 11:22:31 am
Call an arborist that is certified with the International Society of Arboriculture.  They will be able to give you a much better answer, and take into account all the variables that aren't apparent in the pictures.  PM me where you live and I will get you in touch with a local expert.  I was in the game for a long time and my father is a Board Certified Master Arborist.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Marks on April 10, 2013, 02:24:26 pm
If it were me I'd climb up and just cut off that part hanging over the house and leave the rest of that limb. Its a conversation piece. Real unique.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Joec123able on April 10, 2013, 03:09:11 pm
I don't know, the tree is actually under a lot of stress with that big heavy limb hanging off like tht so it actually might help the tree by removing some of that branch
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on April 11, 2013, 09:10:47 am
To reiterate:
Get a truly professional opinion.

Fact is, EVERY tree will eventually either fail or be cut down.  EVERY branch will either be pruned or come down on its own, eventually.

Just looking at your picture, I can tell you're in a suburban area, built probably in the 50's to 60's.  Trees in good condition can add big $$$ to property value, and a consultation is usually cheap or free enough.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 11, 2013, 10:13:27 am
I have cut several trees off houses and would tie a rope(chain or cable would be better) to the limb about 20 feet from the tree, keep a little pressure on the rope pulling away from the house, notch the limb about 4" deep on the side away from the house and start cutting from the top down very slowly. As the limb starts to droop I would apply more rope pressure away from the house. You would want to stand on the side of the tree away from your house to do your cutting.



This would be a matter of cut an inch, see what happens, cut another inch and gradually let the limbs upper branches settle to the ground or at least far enough down so you can reach the top branches to remove them and work your way back toward the main tree trunk.

Of course my advice is worth every penny you paid for it.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: sleek on April 13, 2013, 04:36:06 am
I would trim it down a bit until it is more.... anatomically correct. Then Hire a guy with a chainsaw who can carve well and make it look more like what it already looks like. Talk about a conversational piece! Tie a couple tether balls under it for good measure.
If you accidentally cut to much off, and are concerned about the size of your branch, you can always trim the bush down there a bit to make it look bigger.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Josh B on April 13, 2013, 01:40:19 pm
I would trim it down a bit until it is more.... anatomically correct. Then Hire a guy with a chainsaw who can carve well and make it look more like what it already looks like. Talk about a conversational piece! Tie a couple tether balls under it for good measure.
If you accidentally cut to much off, and are concerned about the size of your branch, you can always trim the bush down there a bit to make it look bigger.

Sleek...you ain't right man!  If I didn't already know you were a swabby, this post would of told me so. ::)
As far as the tree goes, I would cut the branch into 6 foot sections and split into staves.  Honey locust isn't the best bow wood, but it will make a bow.  Josh
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: sleek on April 13, 2013, 05:00:04 pm
Hehe.. sorry, but I'm still laughing. If I can't be immatureat the age of 30, when can I be?
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Joec123able on April 13, 2013, 07:04:45 pm
I would trim it down a bit until it is more.... anatomically correct. Then Hire a guy with a chainsaw who can carve well and make it look more like what it already looks like. Talk about a conversational piece! Tie a couple tether balls under it for good measure.
If you accidentally cut to much off, and are concerned about the size of your branch, you can always trim the bush down there a bit to make it look bigger.



HahahaHaha
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 15, 2013, 11:22:24 am
I have a double trunk poplar in a flower bed behind the house, that has to go. It was a little six incher 10 yeas ago but is at least 24" today at the base with one trunk leaning toward my shop. This will be a cable and pull job to keep it off my shop, may whack it Friday, will take pictures of the process.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Marks on April 15, 2013, 01:13:43 pm
I can't imagine it putting too much stress that low on the tree. The higher up the trunk the more stress. Up on the left split would make a good swing spot. I vote leave it.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: 4dog on April 23, 2013, 12:11:01 pm
Cut the part over the house First, cut it towards the tree in increments so no big limbs impact your house, just keep moving back when your about 10' fron the trunk cut about a 6' piece, for a stave if ya think its worth it , cut the rest off , your done. DO NOT cut the stump flush with the tree , leave a stump about 10" to 1' from the trunk.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on April 23, 2013, 03:36:02 pm
Any updates, Gopher?
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: John987 on September 16, 2015, 04:58:11 am
Cut the part over the house First, cut it towards the tree in increments so no big limbs impact your house, just keep moving back when your about 10' fron the trunk cut about a 6' piece, for a stave if ya think its worth it , cut the rest off , your done. DO NOT cut the stump flush with the tree , leave a stump about 10" to 1' from the trunk.

Why he should not cut the stump flush ? Sorry for the silly question but not getting it.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: caveman2533 on September 16, 2015, 06:56:28 am
I was always under the impression you should cut close to the tree as it helps the wound to heal and prevent rot. If you cut it and leave a long stub the stub will rot and then proceed to rot the main trunk.
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Zuma on September 16, 2015, 11:11:20 am
Free advice sounds good to me.
What I see as a small problem with cutting sections
---is the upper branches look like they could twist
 towards the porch and do a little damage.
I --(as others have said ) would tie on a line high in the
bushy area and put a little tention  away from the
house to be sure. Then you could actually drop the
whole limb if you wanted to.
If you want to use a part of the limb for a swing
or hunting stand >:D leave what you want.
If it starts to deteriorate cut it then.
Zuma
Title: Re: Tree Trimming Experts
Post by: Chippintuff on September 16, 2015, 11:51:07 am
There's nothing wrong with that tree. Leave it alone unless some or all of the limb dies.

WA