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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 11:47:23 pm

Title: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 11:47:23 pm

I cut these Elms this evening and can't stand not knowing exactly which sub-species it is.
 I know from the corky wings that it's either "winged" or "rock" elm...but I can't figure out which is which ???
 This first set of pictures is from a scrubby little tree I cut in the edge of a field (if that matters)
 
 Both trees look a lot alike, but there is some subtle differences and I just can't lay a finger on it.
 I've read that Elm varies greatly from tree to tree, so who knows...it may be the same stuff.

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Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 11:50:07 pm

Here's the other tree.  It was cut in the woods and was a good bit bigger. It has a nice red heart, while the other one had virtually no heart wood.

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Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: Timo on March 24, 2010, 12:37:50 am

Man,talk about the nut fallin close! I swear that is a mini me for sure! :o

Cool lookin kid. 8)

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: FlintWalker on March 24, 2010, 12:40:10 am

Yea...he's mine ;D That was supposed to be a smile  :D

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: DanaM on March 24, 2010, 07:52:22 am

Great picture of Mason Shannon :)

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: Cacatch on March 24, 2010, 10:07:00 am

I'll throw a half-educated guess out and then see if I'm right or not...I'd say they're both rock elm, and that the "heart" on the one is not really heartwood, but dutch elm disease, which starts in the core like that.

Let's see what Hillbilly and the other guys say.  ;)

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: Hillbilly on March 24, 2010, 12:23:52 pm

Shannon, I'm not really familiar with rock elm (we don't have it here,) but I'd say that your stuff looks identical to winged elm, especially the first one. The second one I'm not as sure about. The USDA map has rock elm in KY mainly clustered in the north-central part of the state, but it also shows it growing in a couple TN counties along the KY border.

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: FlintWalker on March 24, 2010, 08:30:01 pm

Steve, I live about 10 miles north of the Tn state line.  So it could be rock elm.  I'm starting to think it's all wingd elm though.  These trees are absolutly everywhere around here and I just don't think rock elm is that common.    I'd rather it be winged anyway.

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: Hillbilly on March 24, 2010, 09:49:02 pm

Winged elm is one of the densest of the elms. Here's the range maps for rock elm:

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Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: FlintWalker on March 24, 2010, 10:16:08 pm

I live riiiiigggggghhhhhhtt................

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Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: cowboy on March 24, 2010, 10:51:03 pm

Looks like a smile to me ;D.

Title: Re: Elm Questions...where ya at DCM? (with pictures)
Post by: DCM4 on March 25, 2010, 09:35:50 am

Sorry I missed this thread Shannon.  I usually just tromp around in Bows.

I reckon I've cut more like the second tree than the first.  But I've only cut a handful of elms.  A little of it goes a long way... ;-).

I believe that young-un is probably the star of this show, but I'd love to follow along as you work up some of that wood.  Post pics, of both, as you make progress.

Enjoyed our visit last night.