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Title: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on February 28, 2010, 04:53:52 pm
how smooth does the back of a juniper bow need to be for rawhide to love it?

60 grit?

150?

220?

400?

thanks,
Rob
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: Pat B on February 28, 2010, 05:00:21 pm
If you use TB glue it doesn't have to be roughed up. Make it smooth enough to be safe and glue the skins down. I think 220 is about as fine as I go.
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on February 28, 2010, 05:01:36 pm
do you reckon hide glue will like it the same way?
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: Pat B on February 28, 2010, 05:03:59 pm
Probably any glue will. I'm not saying you have to go with the 220. 60 will probably be fine if that's what you have.  De-greasing is more important I think. 
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on February 28, 2010, 05:06:26 pm
thanks, Pat!

the rawhide is almost soft enough to pull out of the water, so i'll wipe the bow down with some dawn & let it dry. i don't suspect it'll cause any trouble to size the back & let it sit for awhile, either. hopefully i'll have some pics soon....

Rob
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: Pat B on February 28, 2010, 05:16:55 pm
You can go ahead and glue it down if the bow is wet. It will hold the moisture a little longer but you should give it plenty of time to dry anyway.  I'd give a week or almost that long to cure and for the moisture to evaporate.
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: El Destructo on February 28, 2010, 06:28:37 pm
I would sand it well with 60 or 80 grit paper...I like Hide Glue better because it adheres better to the Hide...and draws it down tighter with little trouble...and once dry...You can use Spar Urethane on it to waterproof it ....JMO
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on February 28, 2010, 08:02:14 pm
thanks, gents!

my knox is taking its own sweet time thickening (not a light syrup yet), so i'll post a few pics while i wait



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Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: woodstick on February 28, 2010, 08:16:38 pm
i use 80 grit seems to do me good.
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: sonny on February 28, 2010, 09:12:37 pm
...you ought to have two or three sizing coats of glue applied before gluing your rawhide.
otherwise the wood might soak it all up.
simply a suggestion.
 
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on March 01, 2010, 01:58:02 am
i suspect that i may be redoing it anyways- the rawhide got a little weak. i think i soaked it too long. i'll take the string wrap off tomorrow night & let it sit for a week to dry. then i'll see how it looks & feels....

thanks for the advice, guys,
Rob
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: El Destructo on March 01, 2010, 09:15:10 pm
what did you glue it with?? You should take the wrap off as soon as possible and let it dry...leaving the wrap on can cause problems too....it holds in too much moisture....JMO
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on March 02, 2010, 05:57:34 am
i took the wrap (cheap jute cord) off today (16 hours wrapped) & it looks much better than i expected! it picked up a little deflex overnight, but after sitting unwrapped for 10 hours, one limb already has most of its natural reflex back & the other is straight.

i'm looking forward to bending it---- in a week or 2

for the record, i can't say that i expect it to survive tillering- most of my first attempts don't, but i was wearing my tillering pj's when i backed it, so....

Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2010, 08:39:44 am
                                                       Tillering PJ's.................. :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on March 02, 2010, 12:31:10 pm
 ;) i don't have any sweats.....
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2010, 09:19:32 pm
Do they have Footies in them too.................. ;D
Title: Re: quickie question before i glue on the rawhide....
Post by: elk country rp on March 02, 2010, 11:03:42 pm
Do they have Footies in them too.................. ;D


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