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Title: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on October 18, 2015, 06:36:25 pm
This weekend I find myself spending the weekend in Williams IA and decided to do a little bow work.  My youngest daughter has outgrown her oak bow and give me pretty specific instructions on what she would like to see in her new bow.  First off, she don't want no girly feather bow nor does she want any pink girly stuff on her bow or arrows!  Ok....got it.  So I asked what she did want.  Out came the back issues of PA.  She decided that she wanted a snakey bow like Will makes with rattlesnake skins, but...she wants rattles carved into the tips and an arrow shelf like her mom's bow, but not Brown wood!  She wants yellow wood like her sister's bow.  Ok...I'll try says I!  So I dig around and find a wiggly Osage stave about the right length and get to work roughing it out.  While working it, I noticed something odd in appearance on the grain.  I took it outside in the sunlight and danged if it isn't curly!  That was about a month ago.  I just started back on it today and got it to floor tiller and couldn't help myself from shaping the handle to see what the grain was going to look like.  Wow!  Beautiful stuff!  The pics don't show it well, but turning it in the sunlight really brings out the beauty in this stuff.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on October 18, 2015, 06:44:34 pm
Curly Osage seems to be quite rare and despite it's beauty, I have mixed feelings about discovering it in my daughter's bow stave.  My reservations come from the only other curly Osage I've ever seen turned out to be very poor selfbow wood.  This piece has excellent ring structure and ratio, but I am a bit concerned about how it will turn out.  Time will tell I guess.  Here's where I got to today with it.  This is as far as I'll go until I get home.  I don't want to take any chances on screwing up such a rare stave because of my crude bow making methods on the road.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Drewster on October 18, 2015, 07:04:57 pm
Oh sweet!   Curly but not girly.  That's going to be a fine one.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: bowandarrow473 on October 18, 2015, 07:06:51 pm
Nice! I'd love to see what the finished product looks like!
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Pat B on October 18, 2015, 07:11:45 pm
Josh, you may want to back it with rawhide or silk. It would at least keep it from really blowing apart.
 I'm sure this makes a Dad feel better.  ::)
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on October 18, 2015, 07:25:29 pm
Thanks fellas!
Pat...it is most definitely getting rawhide.  The wood feels good and sounds good when you tap on the tip.  Good solid ring to it like normal Osage, but I am planning on taking every precaution before it ever gets put in her hands.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: osage outlaw on October 18, 2015, 10:07:53 pm
Does it feel kind of wet and rubbery when you bend it?  Is the draw weight light for the dimensions?  That's how my curly osage bow felt.  It acted like it had soaked in water over night.  I hope yours turns out better than mine did. 
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on October 19, 2015, 12:49:53 am
So far it just feels like good quality Osage.  As Rich likes to say, when you bend it, it feels like it wants to get back straight...fast.  I'm hoping for the best.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: wizardgoat on October 19, 2015, 12:56:40 am
Story made me laugh, can't wait to see the finished bow Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Pappy on October 19, 2015, 06:04:53 am
Beautiful so far, I didn't have very good luck with my Curly Osage, hope you have better luck because it is beautiful wood and rare to find. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Aaron H on October 19, 2015, 07:51:47 am
I think it's awesome that she knows exactly what she wants, and has all the confidence that Dad can pull it off.  Can't wait to see it finished Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: blackhawk on October 19, 2015, 08:18:34 am
Josh...are you sure what your seeing is figured wood? I cant see any figure across the back and belly like clints was...i think what your seeing are the medullary rays on the edge grain which can be fairly common sometimes with osage. Id like to see some closer up pics across the back and belly...clints was so prominent that it was clearly visible even in a fuzzy pic. Hope ya prove me wrong pal  :P  :laugh:
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on October 19, 2015, 08:37:16 am
Thanks fellas!
My camera sucks, but I think I captured a little bit of the curl on the back.  Here ya go Chris.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: blackhawk on October 19, 2015, 08:56:14 am
Thats what i was looking for...thanks buddy!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: osage outlaw on October 19, 2015, 09:09:42 am
I see it.  Do the grain lines wiggle back and forth tightly?
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 19, 2015, 09:24:43 am
Looking good so far trucker.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: BowEd on October 19, 2015, 09:31:15 am
Cool Josh.Can't witness these oddities shooting glass........lol.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on October 19, 2015, 09:46:01 am
Thanks fellas!
Ed!!!   Glad to see ya back!
Clint, it does wiggle back and forth, but no where near as extreme as your stuff.  This stuff is way more subtle.  Hopefully that will make the difference.
For those of you wondering what we're talking about in regards to figure and grain. The anomaly that produces the tiger stripe chatoyancy in the wood is known as curl.  You see a lot of curl in maple and its fairly common in walnut.  It is however very uncommon to find in Osage.  I have a piece that Clint gave me that is pretty extreme curl and as such, absolutely beautiful.  If you look at the edge of the wood in the picture, you will see a small sliver that zig zags back and forth.  This is the grain we are talking about that produces the effect.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: BowEd on October 19, 2015, 09:49:04 am
Thanks....I see there are a few new catagories on here now.....horn bow,flight bow etc.Glad to see it.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: JoJoDapyro on October 19, 2015, 11:08:17 am
Oh sweet!   Curly but not girly.  That's going to be a fine one.  Keep us posted.

Perhaps It has a name!
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: osage outlaw on October 19, 2015, 11:13:11 am
The grain squiggle was pretty extreme in the bow I tried to make from it.  It looks like yours will be better bow wood. 

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/bows%202015/20150205_110912.jpg)
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on October 19, 2015, 05:15:44 pm
Well...I'm hoping it turns out better anyway.  We will see. Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on February 23, 2016, 09:32:53 am
Getting closer on this one.  It's pulling 24#@24" and has taken very little set.  My daughter has been shooting it in and gave me the go ahead to finish it up.  It's a pretty snappy little shooter even with the curly grain.  Hopefully I'll get it finished up the next time I get home.  Here she is putting it through the paces.  The tiller needs just a smidgen of fine tuning, but it's pretty close. Thanks for looking.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: osage outlaw on February 23, 2016, 10:15:16 am
Looking good Josh.  Were you able to talk her out of skinning it?
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on February 23, 2016, 10:50:49 am
Thanks Clint!  Nope...she won't budge on the skins.  I even tried talking her into skinning the bow she's making instead of this one...no dice there either.  She wants her bow snaky like a WillH bow and that's that!  Lol!  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Will B on February 26, 2016, 01:45:58 pm
Great looking bow and I really enjoyed the story.  She's a lucky girl.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Aaron H on February 26, 2016, 02:31:58 pm
Can't wait to see it all finished up Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Buckeye Guy on February 26, 2016, 06:56:28 pm
Looking good !
wish I had some to try
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: burchett.donald on February 26, 2016, 08:50:50 pm
 Doc,
         That tiller looks upper limb slightly positive and looks good from my screen...Your daughter has good archery form there also...
                                                                                                                                      Don
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: DuBois on February 26, 2016, 11:59:16 pm
That girls got a good daddy. Very cool!
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on December 27, 2016, 02:22:25 pm
Finally getting around to finishing this one after my daughter has been shooting it for a year.   I glued on a couple prairie rattlers that had been shot with bird shot.  Both skins were riddled with holes from one end to the other.  What a booger that was!  The rattler tips are dogwood.  Hopefully I'll get it finished next time I get home.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Aaron H on December 27, 2016, 02:58:42 pm
Finished up nice Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Onebowonder on December 27, 2016, 03:07:42 pm
WOW!!!  Really nice!  -OneBow
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: upstatenybowyer on December 27, 2016, 05:05:10 pm
Nice. I've never seen rattlers on the tips like that... very cool  8)
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: bentstick54 on December 27, 2016, 06:56:08 pm
Finished up nice Josh. Was the finish specs 24#@24"? And what length did you make it? Bet she loves it!
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 27, 2016, 07:27:00 pm
Well done Josh!
DBar
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on December 27, 2016, 07:49:56 pm
Thanks fellas, but it ain't finished yet.  This was just an update.  I believe it's 54" ntn and yes 24#@24".  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: osage outlaw on December 27, 2016, 07:57:34 pm
Those skins look amazing.  Great job patching the pellet holes.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on December 28, 2016, 12:57:40 am
Thanks Clint!  There are a few holes that were just to close together to do anything with, but i got most of them closed up before the glue set.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Pat B on December 28, 2016, 09:16:38 am
Looking good so far, Josh.  8)
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Scottski on December 28, 2016, 11:36:22 am
Nice!
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: bentstick54 on December 28, 2016, 10:12:17 pm
I have a couple grand daughters coming up, and hope I can get them interested. Hope I can do something half as nice.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Badly Bent on December 28, 2016, 10:57:54 pm
Nice work carving those tips to look like rattles Josh and thats a good looking pattern on those skins. A little finish over the whole works will really bring out the beauty of that bow. Your daughter will be very proud of her dads creation I bet.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: bjrogg on December 29, 2016, 07:07:43 am
Your daughter has some really great insight into how she wants her bow to look and function Doc. I sure hope that stave works out for you it sure fits the bill looks wise. I like the curly but not girly 😊
Bjrogg
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: BowEd on December 29, 2016, 08:09:08 am
Very nice looking bow Josh.The skins do really set those snakes and profile off nice.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: PaulN/KS on December 29, 2016, 11:24:12 am
Great looking bow.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on December 30, 2016, 10:47:30 pm
Thank you kindly fellas!  3 coats of tru-oil so far and the grain is looking good...to my eyes anyway.  If all goes well, I should finish it up this weekend.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: BowEd on December 31, 2016, 10:26:54 am
I've seen that type of grain occasionally on some of this Iowa osage too.Beautiful stuff.Your daughter should be very glad.
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on January 02, 2017, 02:39:09 pm
Finally finished it up.  My daughter seems to be tickled with it.  Unfortunately today is very foggy so I won't be able to capture the grain in the pics, but I have to go back to work so these will have to do.  Thanks for following along.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on January 02, 2017, 02:41:18 pm
And some more pics
Title: Re: curly Osage
Post by: Josh B on January 02, 2017, 02:43:21 pm
Last ones
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: osage outlaw on January 02, 2017, 03:44:47 pm
That turned out great!  Those tips are very cool and match the skins perfectly.  Well done dad  :)
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Aaron H on January 02, 2017, 04:03:17 pm
Great work trucker dad. Good memories happening right there
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 02, 2017, 08:49:12 pm
Awesome. I just made some for my kids and seeing them shoot and smile is just about the most satisfying thing I guy could ask for. You da man!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: GB on January 03, 2017, 04:44:05 am
Beautiful work on that bow.  The skins look terrific and those tips are something else.  Your daughter looks pleased. :)
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on January 03, 2017, 07:33:27 am
Oh that's nice. Fits your daughter perfect!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Pappy on January 03, 2017, 08:26:48 am
Very nice, beautiful, Bow and your gal. ;)
  Pappy
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: BowEd on January 03, 2017, 08:35:08 am
Very nice bow for your daughter Josh.I like everything about it.Excellent work.
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on January 03, 2017, 10:09:17 am
Thanks fellas!  Our first 4h shoot is the 15th and she is chomping at the bit to try out her new Christmas presents. New .22 rifle, New benelli shotgun, and her new bow. Santa kinda spoiled her this year!  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: bjrogg on January 03, 2017, 11:29:50 am
That just puts a big smile on my face gundoc 😊😊😊 excellent bow she will remember that forever
Bjrogg
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Onebowonder on January 03, 2017, 12:59:56 pm
The bow looks perfect for her!  Good job Dad.  ...but that quiver is purty kewl too!  I'd have never figured a skunk pelt for a quiver option.

OneBow
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 03, 2017, 05:17:38 pm
Nice looking bow.  She must be pleased
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: selfbow joe on January 03, 2017, 08:44:00 pm
Very nice work.  I like the tip on this.
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on January 04, 2017, 12:35:21 am
Thank you kindly gentleman!  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: osage outlaw on January 04, 2017, 12:38:37 am
How about some better pictures of that grain on a sunny day?
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on January 04, 2017, 12:45:17 am
That can be arranged!  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: bubby on January 04, 2017, 12:54:15 am
That came out great Josh, the tips , the skins nice attention to detail
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 04, 2017, 12:50:49 pm
The bow looks perfect for her!  Good job Dad.  ...but that quiver is purty kewl too!  I'd have never figured a skunk pelt for a quiver option.

OneBow


Same, that quiver is every bit as awesome as the rest of the kit!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on January 04, 2017, 04:50:09 pm
Thanks Bub!
Here's the strap to the skunk quiver
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Bob Barnes on January 10, 2017, 11:36:44 pm
Excellent! 
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: fats on January 11, 2017, 12:16:20 pm
Looks like your little girl is gonna have a lot of years of fun with that bow. Beautiful bow; I always like the snake skin backings. I think that kind of gives the bow a special look; very nice!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: simson on January 11, 2017, 02:08:17 pm
Josh, just noticed I have never answered on this thread in spite of visiting several times - sorry for that.
That curly girlie stick turned out very nice and your daugther will pleased for sure!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Willibow on January 11, 2017, 04:53:50 pm
Beautiful work.  She's a very lucky girl!  My daughter is turning 5 this April and I think I'd like to give her a bow to mark the milestone.  Thanks for the inspiration!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: feathersnwood on January 11, 2017, 09:12:52 pm
That's a cool looking bow!!! Bet the rest of the 4-hers will be jealous!
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on January 12, 2017, 10:57:26 pm
Thank you very much for the nice comments!  Unfortunately, it's looking like she'll have to wait to show it off as there is nasty ice storm on the way.  The 4h shoot hasn't been called off yet, but it will be I'm sure.  That'll give me a little more time to make her some new arrows to go with it, so it all works out.  Thanks again!  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Buffalogobbler on January 13, 2017, 12:39:51 pm
Some stiff BOM competition this month but I love this bow!
the tips carved like rattlesnake rattles are Awesome!!!

Kevin
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Josh B on January 14, 2017, 05:17:45 pm
Thanks Kevin!  I don't remember who I stole that tip idea from, but I have used it a few times now.  They really do set off a set of rattlers.  Josh
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 14, 2017, 05:38:50 pm
Had to take another look at this one....
Josh, I may have to try the rattler nock on my next WDB backed bow...cool
DBar
Title: Re: curly Osage (finished pics page 4)
Post by: H Rhodes on January 14, 2017, 09:06:06 pm
Amazing work Gun Doc.