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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: 65x55 swedis on November 04, 2008, 11:40:24 pm

Title: blow guns
Post by: 65x55 swedis on November 04, 2008, 11:40:24 pm
hey i am wondering out of all of the bow hunter out there have you ever useds a blow gun. not on game but just for fun. i use a 40 cal. and i just shoot plates and cards.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: huntertrapper on November 05, 2008, 10:31:17 am
ive been meaning to make one but havent yet...i was looking to maybe use it for squirrels or something or birds.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: madcrow on November 05, 2008, 10:40:44 am
I have a couple of 40 cals, and I have the pipe for a 36 cal.  I am also working on a 6 foot bamboo that will end up being around 60 cal.  It will include 11" bamboo darts and a few will have very small trade points for squirrels and stuff.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: JW_Halverson on November 05, 2008, 01:02:00 pm
I haven't read of any cultures using a blowgun that did not simultaneously develope a toxin for the darts.  I helped recover over a dozen ducks and geese that were wearing blowgun "broadhead" darts from Canyon Lake here in Rapid City, SD some years back and there was not a single fatality observed.  Think of it this way...if a wire poked a hole in small game and killed it, then veterinarians wouldn't give rabies shots for Fluffy and Muffin anymore. 

I hope I am not coming across as too sarcastic, but when you see a beautiful canada goose with a blowgun dart in it's head swimming around a family park you get a little peeved. 

And before anyone cries "hippocrite", yes, I own a blowgun, and yes I use it...just not for hunting.  Ever play darts with a blowgun?  After a game or three you will find you have to step back to about 15-20 yds to make it challenging again.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: knightd on November 05, 2008, 01:17:04 pm
I don't think I would try and take something as big as a goose with one with out poison.. but I have when I was younger taken tree rats and bunny's..With good success.. I did use heavy darts with metal broad heads..
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: madcrow on November 05, 2008, 02:37:23 pm
I can't see shooting ducks and geese with blowguns.  I stick to the small stuff.  I have never had a squirrel get away from me after being wounded.  Knock on wood.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Hillbilly on November 05, 2008, 04:20:42 pm
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I haven't read of any cultures using a blowgun that did not simultaneously develope a toxin for the darts.


The Cherokee and several other Southeastern tribes including the Choctaw and Yuchi used blowguns (and still do-there are several Cherokee in my area that still make and use them-amazingly accurate, too), and they didn't use poison at all that I know of. The Cherokee at least didn't. They use river cane blowguns that are 6-8' long, with split locust darts a foot to a foot and a half long fletched with thistle down. A blowgun like this will take out birds, squirrels, and rabbits with no poison.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: armymedic.2 on November 05, 2008, 07:26:33 pm
i shot a few squerrils and a bunch of birds with darts, worked really wel, i use the store bought wire "hunting" darts.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: mullet on November 05, 2008, 07:50:52 pm
  I've played darts with one and it's a lot of fun. Hilbilly's friend, Barry Mc Caull had a real nice river cane one at Pat's 1st Camporama. It worked great.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Ian Johnson on November 05, 2008, 08:00:27 pm
I've gotten one squirrel in the backyard with my cold steel(real good blowgun), and lots of frogs
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Hillbilly on November 05, 2008, 09:59:25 pm
I've made a couple from conduit pipe over the years, as well as a couple of primitive ones. It's surprising how powerful the things can be. I made one a couple years ago from a big joe-pye weed stalk that would stick a nail-tipped dart through a piece of 1/2" plywood. I've got some blowgun-sized cane that I'm going to try to work up this winter.
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 05, 2008, 10:04:15 pm
         Have made em outta cane in the past. Got some ducks, putt-putts and some other birds. Oh yeah got a monkey in back swamps on res.  ;D Workee good.........bob
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Hillbilly on November 05, 2008, 10:07:47 pm
Bob, I'd just about bet that you're the only one of us that has ever killed a monkey with a blowgun....;D So how does monkey taste? :)
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: mullet on November 05, 2008, 10:17:06 pm
  like your little cousin ;)
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 05, 2008, 10:22:04 pm
Hahaha! Yup taste good and just like Eddie says! :o They escaped from Miami zoo back in '92 when Andrew came through. Nasty critters and smart and hell on native birds. Lots of em in back swamps been breedin' there fer like 15 years.Felt like a south american NDN when I shot it. Well since I is a NDN kinna felt same same ! ;D.bob
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 05, 2008, 10:54:23 pm
Matecumbe an Caloosa and Seminoles used and Seminoles still use blow guns and none used poison. Like Steve (Hillbilly ) described em long "guns " and LONG darts....bob
Title: Re: blow guns
Post by: Narwal on November 09, 2008, 08:31:34 pm
I just picked up a 8.5' rivercane blowgun and 12 darts in Cherokee, NC last weekend.  This store had one other 8' gun in stock, but they usually have the longest guns on the reservation.  The also keep some darts made by Walker Calhoun, who is one of the last dart makers that whittle the dart shafts from locust.  Please feel free to email me and I'll give you the name of the store!!