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Title: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 08, 2010, 10:13:12 am
i was invited by a costumer to hunt on his gameranch for a african blackbuck and what they have to use is 15ft tall bow stands i have never shot off the ground before is it hard to compensate at that height i have a week to learn how to shoot from that height if i cant figure it out i will ask him if i can just shoot from the ground. if yall have any tips plz let me know i think the feeders are 15yrds from the stand ttyl


sterling
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: Stoker on November 08, 2010, 03:56:38 pm
Just like shooting down hill . Pivot on the hips keeping your back and shoulders square maintaining your form.
Shoot on the high side of the lungs going in you gotta both of  them. Stand on your roof and giver a whirl
It's actually fairly easy.Good luck on your quest.
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: gstoneberg on November 08, 2010, 04:05:19 pm
Good advice.  My tendency is to shoot high from an elevated stand.  Consequently, I always try to heart shoot the target from a high stand.  My theory is that I tend to overdraw the bow when I'm shooting downhill because I don't bend from the waist very well.  I can count on one hand the number of times I've undershot my quarry, but have many many times sent an arrow over their back.

Good luck,
George
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: PaulLovesJamie on November 08, 2010, 05:29:49 pm
If at all possible, get up in a stand and try it before you go!
I cant tell you if you need to aim high or low or dead on - I practice from both the ground and a stand, so its all kind of "instinctive" for me.  But I can tell you that shooting straight down, I missed badly the first time I tried it. Took a half dozen arrows to get that dialed in. 
When I get out early, I bring 1 or 2 field points and stump-shoot them as soon as I get strapped in.
And as stoker implies, remember that you are aiming for the heart inside the deer, so the spot you pick to hit needs to be higher on the body.

good luck, sounds like a fun hunt :)
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: hawkbow on November 08, 2010, 06:44:44 pm
Hey brother, I am no expert by any means on stand hunting. but can say that what I have learned concerning shooting deer from on high, is that they seem to duck the arrow more often than when hunting from the ground. Must be a response to the sound coming down on them. anyway happy hunting bro. let me know how you do.. Hawk
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: El Destructo on November 08, 2010, 07:04:04 pm
Sterling....your neighbors may think your nuts....but I practice from my house roof....works great for me...
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: sailordad on November 08, 2010, 07:07:33 pm
Sterling....your neighbors may think your nuts....but I practice from my house roof....works great for me...

Mike,your neighbors know your nuts,so they expect that from you  ;D ;)


sorry it took so long,getting that to you(you did get it right?)
but when im in turkey mode,everything else comes second
i do appreciate it  ;) :)
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: lowell on November 08, 2010, 07:28:32 pm
I agree with gstoneberg.... aim for the heart or at least not high on the chest.  ;)

 I have shot over more deer than I care to think about!! :'(
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 09, 2010, 03:03:15 pm
Thank you all on the suggestions I guess il be on my roof this afternoon tryn this out   :o I will keep y'all posted on how the hunt goes
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 17, 2010, 01:01:52 pm
Well I am planning to do the hunt tomorrow or Friday if not It will be early next week wish me luck from what I figured out it's like shooting gar your target spot is lower then where you would normally hit and I know I can hit a gar from up high thanks again for all the info hope the next time you hear from me it will be smiles and lots of pics of my first game kill with my bow that's not a fish  ;D ttyl

Sterling
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: gstoneberg on November 17, 2010, 03:57:25 pm
Good luck!!

George
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: Ryano on November 17, 2010, 10:03:08 pm
The steeper the angle the lower you have to aim. If your shooting straight down you need to try to shoot under them to actualy hit 'em in my experiance. @ 15 feet high 15 yards out it shouldnt be much of a issue. Maybe just shoot for the lower portion of the kill zone.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 18, 2010, 11:18:04 am
Talked to My costumer he is booked up till mid next week so I get a few extra days tp practice
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: Stoker on November 18, 2010, 04:22:04 pm
Good luck on your hunt.
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: profsaffel on November 23, 2010, 08:54:41 am
Sterling....your neighbors may think your nuts....but I practice from my house roof....works great for me...

If it really bothers them, just say you found a new way to put up Christmas lights.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: Ranger B on November 23, 2010, 09:52:12 am
I concur that most people tend to miss high from a stand but it's not because there is some gravatational reason for the arrow flying high.  The arrow goes where you shoot it.  If you follow the advice above of bending at the waist your form will be the same as on flat ground.  If you don't use proper form then your draw changes.  So, bend at the waist, hit anchor and most importantly - PICK A SPOT - and shoot that spot.  More people miss deer from shoot at deer vs. a spot on the deer than any other reason.  I've missed my fair share over the years and when I do I know what I've done.  I try to pick my spot early and never let my eyes leave it until the shot is complete.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: Hillbilly on November 26, 2010, 10:04:56 am
As everyone else said, you'll shoot high if you're not careful, especially if the critter you're shooting at is in close. I whiffed two arrows right over deer's backs a couple weeks ago, they were both almost under me. At fifteen yards I would have probably nailed both.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: stickbender on November 27, 2010, 03:04:28 am

     Good luck, and if you practice from the roof, and the neighbors look, and ask what the heck are you doing, just say, oh nothing, I just wanted to give the snakes a sporting chance.  Oh, could stomp your foot, and shoo that big one over this way?  ;) ::)  Good luck, and I hope to hear, you are dining on Black Buck steaks, and back straps soon!


                                                                          Wayne
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 30, 2010, 06:05:05 pm
Tomarow is the big day pray that I get a kill il prolly take my 1858 navy arms 44cal bp pistol for a side arm may my arrow fly true  ;D
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: gstoneberg on November 30, 2010, 06:17:18 pm
Good luck, and take that camera.

George
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 30, 2010, 06:56:52 pm
Will do he changed what I can kill now I get to choose. my selection is any doe "axis,whitetail,or black buck" or a white tail spike or deformed black buck male. So I get just one kill with that  ;D and to top it off asmany hogs I want so I mite take a semiauto rifle after I try with my bow just incase a herd of hogs walk up and I am out of arrows. With a kill or not tomarow will be a great day it will be 29deg in the morning the feeder is 10 yards from the stand that's 15 ft off the ground.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on November 30, 2010, 10:04:16 pm
well i am all pact up and have the jitters with excitement :). its going to be a long nite of waiting lol
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: mullet on November 30, 2010, 10:48:47 pm
 Good luck, and have fun. That's what matters.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: Pat B on November 30, 2010, 11:50:20 pm
Good luck, Sterling. Aim small, miss small!!!   8)
  Pick a spot on the deer and shoot it, not at the deer.  ;)
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 01, 2010, 07:13:07 am
Thanx all well I am heading out it's 4:48 am TTY in a few hours  ;)
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 01, 2010, 02:14:06 pm
My dad shot a cull buck and I got nothing we had to leave at 10 to go on a service call. I plan to be on stand again around 3 I saw lots of deer but nothing I could shoot. There was two nice does but they stayed out of range behind the trees
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: gstoneberg on December 01, 2010, 02:26:05 pm
Hopefully this afternoon will bring better chances.  Good luck.

George
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on December 01, 2010, 05:18:47 pm
I know this does not help with the question but blackbuck are from India not Africa.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 01, 2010, 05:33:39 pm
I know this does not help with the question but blackbuck are from India not Africa.
that's cool Thanx for the info
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 01, 2010, 09:05:37 pm
Here is how the evening hunt went sad to say no kill. But its all good I am heading to church band practice rite now so il post pics and a short vid I took today later. Il talk to my costumer later I think he will let me go again till I get a kill. TodAy was a grand day ttyl



Sterling
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 02, 2010, 12:21:13 am
ok here is the video now i know i am not using all primitive gear but its all i have my fiberglass backed recurve and some aluminum arrows that i have been shooting for 10 years i do have a few cain and ceder arrows but i dont feel comfortable with hunting with them yet. to bad i wasn't allowed to shoot one of these big bucks it would have been alot of meat in the freezer :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZQ7-E2jKs

Sterling
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: gstoneberg on December 02, 2010, 12:48:23 am
That looked like fun.  Looks like your bowfishing rig does dual duty deer hunting  :)  Better luck next time.

George
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 02, 2010, 11:50:50 am
That looked like fun.  Looks like your bowfishing rig does dual duty deer hunting  :)  Better luck next time.

George
  haha rite its perminitly attached to the bow i will have to unlash it if i want to take it off lol.
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: gstoneberg on December 02, 2010, 03:22:18 pm
I understand.  Once deer season is over, if you feel like a road trip my lease is south of Abilene.  I'm always looking for company on hog hunts.  Gotta shoot at night, though we put lights on the feeders.  Good luck with your deer hunting.

George
Title: Re: hunting out of a stand?
Post by: skyarrow on December 02, 2010, 05:22:45 pm
Sweet where is it exactly? Send me a pm or just call me I'd liketo visit with you
361-935-1715

Sterling