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Title: feather source??
Post by: Shooter_G22 on October 10, 2008, 09:39:29 pm
does anybody know of a good feather source?????

what are legal feathers???   heard the term on another post...

would like to know of how to get feathers alot cheaper than $0.40 to $0.50 a piece...

any clues???

Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: sailordad on October 10, 2008, 09:44:13 pm
go shoot a turkey or goose, thats as cheap as it gets lol

go look around ponds etc where you see geese hanging out and look for primary and secondary wing feathers.

cant use feathers from raptors or heavens forbid that others will throw a fit( us gov)
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: El Destructo on October 10, 2008, 09:49:56 pm
Stay away from Raptor Feathers....Federal Fines there........look for places that Geese....Cranes....and Herons hang around...these all make good fletching....so does Turkey....and they all Shed feathers....If there is a Turkey Ranch around....they will usually let you pick up what you want....I used to get lots when I was young from around Lake Superior....the Geese would Moult every year and leave thousands of them on the Beaches
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: JackCrafty on October 10, 2008, 09:50:26 pm
I've spent a lot of time looking for sources for feathers....and reading up on the laws concerning protected birds and illegal feathers.

In a nutshell, only farm raised birds produce "legal" feathers.  All other birds are protected in most states, with the exception of pigeons and invasive species.  If you're picking up wild bird feathers, call your local wildlife department and ask them if you can possess them.  Chances are the answer will be no.

Shoot me a PM and I'll give you the web address of an outfit that sells domesticated turkey wing feathers for 24 cents each.  If you cut them in half, then each fletch will be 12 cents.  The only catch is the shipping.....so it's cheap only if you buy quite a few.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: ricktrojanowski on October 10, 2008, 10:34:48 pm
If you're like me and don't have much luck shooting some turkeys or geese yourself.  Try going to a turkey check station.  Most of the guys I run into are more than happy to part with their wings.   One hunter even was so kind as to give me the entire bird.  I have also purchased some from a web site.  If you PM me I'll send you the address.  I would post it but don't know if that is allowed.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: sailordad on October 10, 2008, 10:37:46 pm
he gave you the whole bird, why did he even bother buying a tag if he wasnt going to eat the bird,hmm dont get it ow well his loss your gain
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: mullet on October 10, 2008, 10:54:46 pm
  Wow! giving the entire bird away is pretty sorry. :-\  When you get those free wings, sane the bones and put them on the Trade Post or PM me.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: ZanderPommo on October 10, 2008, 11:10:11 pm
I have a great link. am I allowed to post it?
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: madcrow on October 10, 2008, 11:15:22 pm
Mullet, I would not call giving the whole bird away sorry.  I know a few people who love to hunt deer and turkey, but don't like to eat them.  They all have my number. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: ZanderPommo on October 11, 2008, 12:46:27 am
look for hen rounds by the pound, I buy em' white an dye them myself, 12 cents per secondary but i use both sides coming down to 6 cents per fletch
splitting and grinding isn't a big deal at all for me
www.rainbow feathers.com
 hope this helps

Zander
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: ricktrojanowski on October 12, 2008, 05:38:04 am
The guy that gave me the bird said he shoots about 5 a spring.  All in different states.  And didn't want that much turkey.  Maybey I looked really skinny and hungry? ;D
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: mullet on October 12, 2008, 07:07:20 pm
  Madcrow, yea, sorry. Sorry because I didn't get it ;D ;) Hanging out at the Check Station is a good idea. I get quite a few every year that way. Most of the time I come in from hunting and find them hanging from a tree in camp. I let everybody know I want them.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: Shooter_G22 on October 12, 2008, 10:43:01 pm
what is a check staion???

  thanks for all the tips gentleman,...   zander i tried that link and it didnt work???

but yea thats kinda what i was loking for... a place that would sell whole feathers by the pound or hundred for alot cheaper than a retailer...   


i used to dear hunt on a trurkey farm in Rokdale Texas....  my uncle was freinds with the guy that ran the farm for the owner....  close to a thousand acre's i think but all his turkey were in big pen or coops or something never really went out to that part of the land...   i always wondered about the feathers for arrow making but that was way back when i would just rifle hunt...  didnt really own a bow that was powerful enough to hunt with... but i wondered becuase i always made arrows as a kid with what ever kind of feathers i could geta hold of...   back then i didnt even know enough about arrow making to know that it is turkey feathers that arrows are made of and it is the wings that are used....

but my uncle still lives in roackdale and its about 3 1/2 hrs from where i live but i asked my other uncle that i work with if he could tell him to talk to him about the guy on that farm... but he said that guy dont work for that rancher any more and dont live in rockdale.. soo he dont think he would be able to get a conect there...

soo back to squar one... :-\
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: mullet on October 12, 2008, 10:51:59 pm
 Check stations are where you check game killed in a Management Area. The link will work if you type it in and close the spaces. I had to modify it to keep it there.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: ZanderPommo on October 13, 2008, 02:45:21 pm
fixed it

Zander
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: mullet on October 13, 2008, 07:22:42 pm
 Alright, changed it back. The only way it gets to stay. They're not a sponsor.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: ZanderPommo on October 13, 2008, 09:45:24 pm
I'm sorry mullet, I misread your post, I thought you were describing how to fix it, i wasn't aware that it had to be written that way.I apologize, and meant absolutely no disrespect to you or the site rules.

Zander
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: Hillbilly on October 13, 2008, 09:48:58 pm
Not a problem, Zander. Since PA mag pays for this site, they only allow direct links to paid magazine advertisers-reasonalble enough.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: Shooter_G22 on October 13, 2008, 10:18:44 pm
thanks gents,

    i really appreciate the help...  sorry to have asked about the link...   didnt realiaze that would be against the rules... sorry...  didnt mean to step on any toes...   i totally respect this board.... it has helped me to understand bow building and archery in general... and by no means do i want to disrespect...

sorry...

and i must say i really look forward to coming home from a hard days work and read and research the knowledge and advice from all you guys.  it realaxes me and gets me one the right tract of some seroiuse project building...and ideas !   ;D

but i also have to say! that i am ashamed to say that i have been doing more reading and replying than actual building this past week... lol... but i really have been learning alot from this week than the last bow... so hopefully i can do better on this next one im going to start probably tomorrow...


Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: mullet on October 13, 2008, 10:33:52 pm
  zander, sent you a PM. Sorry guy's, I should have let you know I disabled it. It's not a big deal to post an address, just don't make it a direct link. The problem is , somebody always takes advantage of us being lenient about it. It is really better to PM each other so you don't work us so hard. But if it's a good one?? ??? use your ,honest, best judgement, I might want to copy it before it's modified. ;)
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: Shooter_G22 on October 17, 2008, 12:50:13 am
go shoot a turkey or goose, thats as cheap as it gets lol

go look around ponds etc where you see geese hanging out and look for primary and secondary wing feathers.

cant use feathers from raptors or heavens forbid that others will throw a fit( us gov)

what are raptors or heavens  ????   
and i posted a new thread about road kill feathers....   can you check that aoout and see what that is???
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: El Destructo on October 17, 2008, 08:09:06 am

what are raptors or heavens  ????   
and i posted a new thread about road kill feathers....   can you check that aoout and see what that is???

Bird of prey, a type of bird often characterized by a hooked beak, sharp talons, and keen eyesight.....Owl.......Hawk...Eagle......Falcon.... Vultures.....Osprey.....Kites....Harriers.....ETC.........and Heaven Forbid...is just an old Saying.....not a Bird........... ::)
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: majsnuff on November 15, 2008, 12:54:24 pm
be careful what you ask for. I put the word out at work to just 2 guys that I would like to get some Turkey and Goose wings for their feathers. Sheesh. That was 2 years ago and I still have featherd wings in the woodshed waiting to be processed. Some days after work, I would find 12 to 14 wings in the back of my old Dodge. Not to complain you understand, just be ready for a feathry flood. ;)
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: El Destructo on November 15, 2008, 12:56:25 pm
Must be nice to ba able to keep them on the Wing....here they would be eaten up beyond use in about 2 months........
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: JackCrafty on November 15, 2008, 01:25:47 pm
Exactly...I have to bag mine up with mothballs immediately after I get em.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: John K on December 03, 2008, 01:32:10 pm
If anybody wants Pheasants wing feathers let me know, i can get plenty !!
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: JackCrafty on December 03, 2008, 03:28:54 pm
JohnK, I'm sending you a PM.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: mullet on December 03, 2008, 09:47:05 pm
 An easy way to keep them from being ate up is to store them in the freezer.
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: John K on December 03, 2008, 11:33:26 pm
Thanks Eddie, I like to put a little Borax in with them...seems to work so far
Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: Shooter_G22 on December 04, 2008, 07:26:33 pm
i got some real nice feathers in the mail the other day...   goose feathers frome little john...  thanks they are awsome...  and then last week end i got a whole turky from my uncle with feathers and all... wheew what a job to pluck that thing... :o

i have feathers now but how do i go about processeing them... well another reason to thank god for this site...  i have a whole lot of learning to do... ;D
 ;D

i still think i could use more im sure im going to go through quite a bit trying to learn...

these turky feathers are nice but i wish i had more...

the goose feathers are awsome too... but they seem to be a little bit softer and a lot more delicate...

Title: Re: feather source??
Post by: Auggie on December 05, 2008, 06:37:18 pm
Ive used wire cutters to remove the feathers from the wing. Get as close to the end of the quill next to the skin and cut.Be sure to keep all the lefts separated from the rights. Also keep primary and secondary feathers separate. Dont let the goose feather fool ya, they work fine. And check out ferrets site hes got a good pictorial of how to strip feathers. Good luck!