Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: NOMADIC PIRATE on May 17, 2008, 05:01:53 am
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lately I've being tillering using sand paper a lot, 60 and 100 grit.
There's lot of things that I like about using this method.
first of all it makes you go slow, and this is always good when tillering, ...well maybe not for the super bowyers, but it's good for me ;D ;D
I've gone from the rasp than clean up with scraper, to scraper than clean up with paper, it's great you can see exactly where you're scraping if you sand it after every scraping session.
using sand paper a lot, cupping it in your hands it's easy to shape the rails ( sorry surboard talk ::) ::) ) I ment the corners, and using a lot the sand paper makes it really hard to get hinges or flat spots. I like the feeling of shaping with the hand rather than with a hard tool, after all the human hand is still the most flexible tool ever, unmatched so far ;D
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lately I've being tillering using sand paper a lot, 60 and 100 grit.
There's lot of things that I like about using this method.
I like the feeling of shaping with the hand rather than with a hard tool, after all the human hand is still the most flexible tool ever, unmatched so far ;D
And the most sensitive....just close your eyes and touch something.....you know what it is without seeing it....you can do everything but taste with them....your finger tips can feel any imperfections in your work.....when your eyes will deceive you
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I do it too. But sometimes it doesn`t make efforts because the material is still too thick. Than I`m going to change for the knife. But this is not so good, because small gridparts are enclosed to the wood and they make the tool dump.
A good reason you told already: if using "highspeed- tools", you quickly turn the mans bow into a childs toy.
Regards Uwe
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uwe, what do you mean by "making the tool dump" ?
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i think he means dumping the tools. ::)
but i need to start tillerin with that stuff. i always take to much off.
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I use the sand paper tillering method especially when working Cedar. It is so soft most files and blades will get you in trouble real quick
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...and they make the tool dump.
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uwe, do you mean 'jump' for 'creating a washboard surface' ??
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I used sandpaper all the time, and sometimes combine with a scraper which can remove minutes amounts of wood at the same pace as the paper I am using...
Sandpaper is good for dealing with any "washboard" too
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oops. i just actually read where he said make the tool dump. i think that he means the washboard surface.
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After lots of experimenting, sandpaper is my favorite tillering tool. 8)
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jackcrafty, i like your lil saying on the bottom of the post thing.
"any critter tastes good with enough butter on it."
i think im gonna start saying that. ;D
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That's rigth, by using sandpaper often, you'll never get the washboard effect
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Recurve Shooter, thanks. I've used that line at restaurants...and with the wife and kids (when they give me that ??? look). ;D
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Sand paper is great for tillering. Especially when its attached to a sander ;)
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I agree with Jesse...i often use a ridgid edgebelt sander to hit the sides and bring my bows to the shape i have drawn...and then a portercable orbital sander to tiller. Very awesome combo.
What? Were you talking about sandpaper on a stick?
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Nope......sandpaper in Your Hand!!!
8)
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yeah, i save that pleasure for the final tune-up...making it all smooth and pretty...what do i look like i'm retired?!?!?!?
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Hey.....being Retired ain't such a Bad thing......I plan on doing that here before too long.........and moving over by Pappy somewhere near Paris Tennessee....in Gods Country USA!!!
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Sand paper on a strick ? ??? how does that work ?
I like the slow process of using handtools, just part of the beayty IMO
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sand paper on a stick: you know: a power sander!
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HOO, I see, ...don't even know how those guys look ;D ;D
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...and they make the tool dump.
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uwe, do you mean 'jump' for 'creating a washboard surface' ??
Sorry, didn`t look into the dictionary! I mean: the small gridparts make the tools blunt.
Regards
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Now uwe, is that your experiance ? or are you just quoting other people's writings ?
If that's your experiance, that's O.K. but I can tell you how to get the best out of your tools (if you're using a scraper)
If you're just quoting someone else, I tell you what, that is happening so often nowadays, and to be honest with you it's quite annoing ;)
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I use a cheap $16 Chinese orbital sander from wally world to do my final tillering, usually with 220 grit paper. I like the stick on sheets of sand paper even though this sander is made for the clamp in sheets. I stick on a sheet, wear it out and then heat the stuck on sheet with my heat gun to get it off cleanly.
The best thing about these orbital sanders is they will get all the washboard dips off the belly of your bow left from previous aggressive scrapers. You do have to go over the bow with a good hand sanding to get rid of the tiny circles left by the orbital sander. They only show up after you put the first coat of finish on, just like every other tiny tool mark you may have missed.
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Now uwe, is that your experiance ? or are you just quoting other people's writings ?
If that's your experiance, that's O.K. but I can tell you how to get the best out of your tools (if you're using a scraper)
If you're just quoting someone else, I tell you what, that is happening so often nowadays, and to be honest with you it's quite annoing ;)
Sorry, but a simple knife gets dull by the small gridparts. Didn`t know that you already noticed it and I didn`t want to annoy you, but could it be that even others are reading this thread and they like to get some info? ;)
Regards Uwe
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I've noticed in my archery class that some of the students go thru sandpaper like lightning, while I can do more than one bow with a quarter sheet. Best I can tell is that they are pushing way too hard on the sandpaper, especially with the coarser grits, removing some of the grit which I guess could be embedded in the wood ???
Kinda funny, but I sharpen almost all of my woodworking tools with a simple jig I made and sandpaper. I think it's a great way to get things sharp, didn't know it could also get them dull ;D
Stan
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I hardly use any sandpaper on my bows. I use a scraper for my final tillering, and just go over the whole bow with about 220 grit to smooth it before I out the finish on it. I finish all the sanding I'll do an a bow in about 5 minutes.
Sean
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I guess my favorite tool is the scraper on most woods. I keep a rasp and some 60 grit sandpaper handy to smooth out washboards. I notice different bows respond different to different tools. Scraper, rasp, spokeshave, draw knife and some sandpaper will almost certainly get the job done on any wood I can think of. Steve
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Yeah Sean, I've heard of bowyers that do that with scraper, I'm not yet good enought to be able to shape, keep the taper consistent and round the cornes properly with the scraper, ....sand paper gives me that.
uwe, I can't comment on kives, I use a scraper and I have no problems of it getting dull because of the using of sand paper