Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: DC on October 19, 2020, 03:15:06 pm
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Say I have a selfbow and arrow, non center shot, nicely matched, arrow spined correctly, all that and I shoot Mediterranean. What happens if I borrow a release from a compound buddy and use it to shoot my bow?
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Your shots become more consistent.
;D
Mark
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You'll be banned from the forum, stripped of all your bow-building awards, and driven naked into the wilderness. ;D
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Your shots become more consistent.
;D
Mark
Consistent maybe, but accurate??
You'll be banned from the forum, stripped of all your bow-building awards, and driven naked into the wilderness. ;D
Sounds like a TV show ;D ;D
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Consistent maybe, but accurate??
Consistent always equals accurate, doesn't it? Mechanical releases are one of the main reasons wheel bows are more accurate when shot by a human being. I think all types of bows are about the same if shot with a machine, but people aren't machines.
Mark
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At the risk of being branded a heretic and blasphemer...I tried playing with releases. Experimented with both mechanical and non-mechanical.
My takeaway is that it depends on your shooting style.
I shoot instinctual (or whatever kids are calling it these days). I only hold at anchor for 1/10 second, or there abouts, and then pull through the release.
The releases don't work for me because I can't trigger the mechanicals at the right moment or toggle the non-mechanicals at the proper moment in my sequence.
Now, if you're a guy who holds at anchor until you feel the shot is right, then they may give you a consistent release. But it has no soul when you can't feel the string.
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All of the above! >:D!
Hawkdancer
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https://www.archerylibrary.com/articles/the-archers-register/1905/the-sharpest-loose/
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why not try a thumb release! theyre ummmm...... a way for me to keep you from that blasphemy!!! ;) ;D (lol) :fp
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why not try a thumb release! theyre ummmm...... a way for me to keep you from that blasphemy!!! ;) ;D (lol) :fp
I'm working on it actually :D
But it's a slow process, for me it's like learning to shoot all over again and doing it left handed.
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I shoot instinctual (or whatever kids are calling it these days). I only hold at anchor for 1/10 second, or there abouts, and then pull through the release.
Yeah, a release would be useless for you with that method.
But it has no soul when you can't feel the string.
I would agree with that. I shot a compound a couple weeks ago for the first time and it was way too sterile. Felt much more like shooting a rifle than a bow. Super easy to shoot tiny groups with, but the novelty wore off in about a dozen shots. Give me a traditional bow any day.
Mark
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Even when I shot wheels I shot with a glove, not a release. I like the feel of the string on my fingers and I like feeling the increase draw weight you get as you draw unlike with a wheel bow. I never liked the let off. My wheel bow was a PSE Nova and after a while I sent it back to PSE to replace the cams for wheels and started shooting instinctively but that let off still messed with me.
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Did anyone have to change the spine of their arrows when they used a release?
Consistent maybe, but accurate??
Consistent always equals accurate, doesn't it? Mechanical releases are one of the main reasons wheel bows are more accurate when shot by a human being. I think all types of bows are about the same if shot with a machine, but people aren't machines.
Mark
If the spine requirement changed you might find yourself consistently to the left or right. Would that be considered accurate? You could adjust for it, then it would be both.
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If the spine requirement changed you might find yourself consistently to the left or right. Would that be considered accurate? You could adjust for it, then it would be both.
Accurate to me is small groups, wherever they land. Hitting the target is just a matter of adjusting the aiming point to suit.
Mark
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If the spine requirement changed you might find yourself consistently to the left or right. Would that be considered accurate? You could adjust for it, then it would be both.
wouldn't precision be group size, and group placement be accuracy? Actually the word accuracy has a few meanings. see the targets about half way down here......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision)
a stiffer arrow, in addition to a release, might also help to shrink groups
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I made a release, believe it’s called a #9 or #6 release because it looks like the number. Took me a couple tries to get it right, but it provides a clean release and is about as simple of a release as you can get. Make it from bone, stout wood, or horn and you could even call it primitive )P( . I played with it a lot, but went back to finger shooting as I enjoy it more.
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wouldn't precision be group size, and group placement be accuracy? Actually the word accuracy has a few meanings. see the targets about half way down here......
I was waiting for that to be mentioned. Your definition is more precise (and accurate! ;D) but most people don't worry as much about the finer points of the details such as this.
Mark
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I made a release, believe it’s called a #9 or #6 release because it looks like the number. Took me a couple tries to get it right, but it provides a clean release and is about as simple of a release as you can get. Make it from bone, stout wood, or horn and you could even call it primitive )P( . I played with it a lot, but went back to finger shooting as I enjoy it more.
A friend gave me one of those years ago and i could never fugure out how to use it.
As to the original question did you have to mess with the arrow spine because of it?
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A friend gave me one of those years ago and i could never fugure out how to use it.
As to the original question did you have to mess with the arrow spine because of it?
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DC, I don’t remember if spine was affected or not. I will try to dig it out later and see. I know you are very much more learned and technical in archery than I am, so what I think is good Arrow flight, you may find to be poor.
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release porn
http://www.archeryhistory.com/releases/releases.htm (http://www.archeryhistory.com/releases/releases.htm)
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I know you are very much more learned and technical in archery than I am, so what I think is good Arrow flight, you may find to be poor.
Don't count on it, I've only been doing this for 6 years. There's a whole pile of stuff I don't know. Ever notice how many questions I ask ;D
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I know you are very much more learned and technical in archery than I am, so what I think is good Arrow flight, you may find to be poor.
Don't count on it, I've only been doing this for 6 years. There's a whole pile of stuff I don't know. Ever notice how many questions I ask ;D
I can answer the unasked question as to how bad it hurts when one of those "9" shaped releases slips off your dang finger from full draw and hits your bow hand...it hurts!...alot!!! :D.
In my case it left a really deep bruise that felt like it went down into the metacarpal bone of my pointer finger.